Oakspear

It was a dark and stormy Mike. Suddenly a Wordwolf rang out, Rafael screamed... Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

Rafael: I don't own any of Wierwille's books, so I'm going strictly by memory, as I did with previous contributions. I thought I remembered that from PFAL...if it's not in the book, please carry on :D--> Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

MJ: It was going to be "babies" instead of puppies. Wasn't the Captain of the Enterprise Jean-Luc Petard? Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

This post is intended as humor :D--> and is a work of fiction; any resemblence to real Mikes, living or dead, or any MOGs, living, dead, or in-between is purely your own imagination Poster: New evidense has come to light that VP Wierwille literally ate puppies during the last year of his life. He thought that ingesting puppy flesh would invigorate him and cause his eye to grow back. Mike:Since I was not there to see these puppies eaten, it didn't happen Poster:But one of the puppies that he ate was my little beagle named Bic. I was in the room when it happened and head the cries of puppy terror when he did it. Mike:Oh, so you heard the cries did you? That implies that you didn't see it, making it a non-event. Poster:Let me clarify Mike; I both saw and heard the puppicide. Mike:Get over it, Doctor was such a great teacher of the Word that we should overlook something minor like torturing animals Poster:I can't believe that you would support such cruelty Mike:Read and master PFAL, you will find nothing in it to indicate that Doctor ate puppies Poster:You are sick Mike, how can you deny that this happened. Mike:Doctor was the man of God and was following God's Plan set forth in the 1942 promise and was always right, therfore if he ate puppies, it was godly. Poster:I can't believe you. You said earlier that he didn't do it, now you're saying that he did. Which is it. Mike:I have much more to say about puppy eating, but it's been a long day and I have to rest up for a long day of scientific window washing. More tomorrow Poster:Dodging the issue, are you? Mike:Crybaby! Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

I enjoy that series too. I waiting for the next one in the post-World War I arc. I believe the first one in the series was How Few Remain. It was fascinating to see how Turtledove constructed a possible history where there was not a powerful united United States and how many things it affected, including the outcome of WWI. Another good one was Ruled Brittania where the Spanish Armada succeeds and occupies Britain. I heartily disliked the WorldWar series, although I found it intriguing at first; where World War II is interrupted by an alien invasion. Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

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Yeah, wasn't that funny how the MOGs could read a lot, while we peons couldn't? Rereading Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, and the Robot Novels (I had a lady friend over the other night, and she noticed The Complete Robot on my end table, she asked me if I was building a robot) Star Trek novels Anything by Tom Clancy Anything by CJ Cherryh Darwin's Radio by David Brin is next on my list Harry Turtledove's alternate histories James Clavell's Noble House books Julian May's Galactic Milieu books The New York Times whenever I get the chance Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is [This message was edited by Oakspear on July 21, 2003 at 1:50.]

Ginger: Thanks! :D--> Mike: Of course I'll still buy you a Leinenkugel, thinking that a person is full of .... does not prevent me from springing for a round Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

Thanks Trefor, for the correction Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

Az: Thanks for posting...glad to know you. Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

Other than the above comments, I take your statements under consideration...thanks! :D--> Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

As long as it's not July 4th...that's a busy week for us grocery geeks :D--> I'm always up for meeting GSers! Oakspear In theory there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

Mike: In the early days of your posting career, I had some respect for your position. You stood pat in the face of almost unanimous (or should I say ubiquitous?) opposition. Your position seemed to flow logically from your premise: that the 1942 "promise" was true, even though I strongly disagreed with it. In the last few pages I have changed my mind. Several posters, Wordwolf prominent among them, have answered you using, not the words of the "tattered remnants" or common sense, but the words of your dead master himself. Those posters, joined now by Rafael, address your points using your own source, quoting the context as well as the "verse" so that there is no mistake. While you are still welcome to your opinion, and I would never suggest that you should be prevented from posting it, your opinion, supposedly based on the writings of "Doctor", is not borne out by those very writings. Your conclusions are not supported by Wierwille's writings, let alone the bible. Your logic is labarynthine and your application of the rules of grammar defies even the most liberal interpretation. I'm aware that what I say will not change your mind...you've stated that in this area it's closed. I'm just making a statement based on my observation of how this thread has proceeded. (I'll still buy you a Leinenkugel ;)-->) Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

Happy birthday and thanks for the hamburgers! Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

Mike: Are you also unfamiliar with the section of PFAL where Wierwille states that if a man believes that he will die within a certain time frame that God would have to rewrite all his laws to not accomodate him? What promise of God guarantees that people will die if they belive to do so? Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

Somebody mentioned being in the soup....what kind of soup? I'm partial to New England Clam Chowder muhself... Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

How about where Wierwille claims that "Godhead" means "head God"? (my apologies if this has been discussed before) I'll look up the Greek word and the definition later, but I recall that it means something like "divine", or "deriving from God". There is nothing in the Greek word to indicate that the "head" portion of the word Godhead means chief or paramount. In fact even the 16th century use of the suffix "head" indicates source, e.g. "the fountainhead of truth. Actual error?... Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

Nice to see you back Rafael :D--> Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

Happy Birthday! take it easy on the margaritas Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare

The supposed places where you assert that Wierwille claimed that some of his own works were God-breathed have been ably addressed previously by others. Subtle? The things that you see, Mike, are only there because you want them to be there. Reading what's written without searching for arcane hidden meanings yields results quite different from the cabala that you're putting together. Oakspear "We...know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling" Henri Poincare