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I read the DNA did not match. Whatever the case is this guy is bad news.

CoolWater, God bless your sweet heart! I wish I knew ya back then .. I would have understood as would have many others. I am glad it is better and I know it will continue to get better. I did alot of work with N.A.M.I.years ago and really understand the stigmayou speak of. In the ministry it was magnified so much. My mother is schizophrenic and was first hospitalized when I was about one. Hers was an exceptionally sad situation and I always hesitate to tell about it because I do not want to give people the impression these situations are hopeless.. they are not! Most people I know living with these illnesses are living successfully with the right kind of help. My mother sadly did not.We just did the best we could living with her condition deteriorating over the years. But I bless my father for sticking with her. She was eventually hospitalized permanantly after about 28 years of being hospitalized every few years for this and has been there for almost 25 years now. I see her as often as I can. I rarely mentioned this to people in the ministry. though some that I did really surprised me with their understanding. Mostly I got the she's possesed line or at best silence. and quickly changing the subject. I much later in life found the local chapter of N.A.M.I. They are a great orginazation and work hard to educate and fight the stigma attatched with mental illness. If I can ever do anything please let me know. It is great you talk about it.. it needs to be talked about! God bless, Coup

Revvell, I am sorry, I spoke out of turn. I thought I had read that in "Witness in the Stars" and I was looking it over last night and could not find it in there. Now I can't remember where I read that..dang my memory is going! Anyway sorry for misleading you.. if I recall were it was I will let you know. Thanks, Coup

Dancing, I don't know exactly. Pretty much the same way you do with any mistake you make. Stop doing it, apologize where you can and move on. It may be an over simplification and I don't mean to trivialize your question but outside of living the best way you know how now.. what can you do? Maybe stop beating up on yourself because unless you were a real diehard jerk which I dought because you ask the question, you just don't desrve it. I imagine like most of us you did some dumb things..you forgive us right? So why not yourself? And I would believe like most of us you did some pretty great things in those 20 years. Tell yourself the same thing you would tell any one of us asking the same question. You know the answer. God bless Coup

Revvel, Thanks for sharing all that! Bullinger has a great explanation of that phrase about not knowing the day or hour in "Witness Of The Stars", which you sum up very well here. It is absolutley thrilling!

If I recall correctly the biggest difference between The Jehovah Witnesses and The Way is in regards to the gifts of the spirit. If you don't want them at the door and don't want to get naked as suggested in another post ( though that sounds alot more fun) tell them you speak in tongues.

Yup, That's pretty much how my husband was hit a few years back. He was out of work 6 months as a result. Thank God he is alive! People just aren't trained to see bikes. The other thing to be aware of is insurance for bikers, at least in our state differs from auto insurance. They are considered recreational vehicles and it pays out differently. Coup

I find it pretty difficult to believe that Jesus, knowing what he was facing in his future would have chosen the marriage and family path.

I had a problem with an online puchase at Orbitz site and I could not resolve it with them. I had good results going to the Attorney Generals office for my state. They have a department specifically for online transactions. You can file your complaint right online also. I spoke with 3 people at Orbitz with no good response. After I sent them a copy of the report to the Attorney Generals Office I recieved a refund AND a coupon within a week. Hope this helps. Coup The other alternative is contact the manufacturer.

Why thanks so very much dmiller and Belle! Yes I have arrived at the big 50! Thanks again.. see you in chat soon though I think tonight I get out of cooking duty and go out to dinner, so not tonight. coup

We were out by the time AOS was produced. But some friends invited us over to see it. In hopes, I was later told that it would so bless us we would return to The Way. We went to see it because they were good friends and we didn't feel so strongly opposed to The Way in those days and acctually still had hope they might pull their act together and we would return. Suffice it to say it did not bless us so much that we returned. I was so uncomfortable that half way through it I took my 3 year old out of the room to play elsewhere so he wouldn't see it. It was creepy, really creepy. On soooo many levels it was creepy. Our friends needless to say were dissapointed that it did not inspire us and we said our goodnights rather uncomfortably and left quickly. All I can say is what were they thinking?? Coup

That's how I understand it DMiller.

My grandfather from Poland spoke English with a mixture of Polish or rather really the opposite, along with a very heavy accent. Anyway he could never say my name and called me what can best be spelled coupcake. I think though I am not sure he meant cupcake, for all I know he could have been calling me something in Polish. So I use it becauseI remember him fondly.

Hills, Hey, we only got an inch or two of snow so far..gotta move down the road this way.. that's why we call it Fairport.:) JoAnn

John, When my daughter returns to Tampa this spring may I write you for more information on your church? Mydaughter needs one in the area. Coup

Belle, There is NOTHING that irritates me more than someone putting words in my mouth. Nothing! If I am gonna be hung out for something I said, it damn well better be something I said. People who do that in my humble opinion are just plain evil.

Templelady, I am glad for you that you found them but am sorry for the difficulty. Let me just say it is not your job or even in your power to fix the situation but just love them. Stay nuetral. Sometimes the opportunity comes up to say the right thing that can give someone a different perspective, if it happens so be it , if not, oh well. Talk with them as often as you like, no more no less. It's a shame your brother feels that way. What his mother did before he was born doesn't change what she did for him one bit. Families sure are the greatest joy and pain. God bless you all. Coup

Outandabout, Hello from Rochester! Yes some of us, for mysterious reasons have remained in sunny Rochester. I remember you well and have fond memories of those years. I talk with your brother from time to time and am so glad to hear about you and your family. My prayers are with you and yours. Thanks for sharing. Hope to see you in chat. JoAnn

A few months back I saw a Way bumper sticker on a car in a gas station around the corner from me. It was different from the one I remember but similar enough I recognized it right away. I waited till the driver came out and had a chat with her. Turns out there is a twig just down the road from me. So yes they do still have stickers, and some even have the guts or maybe a better word is audacity to display them:)-->

All this hoopla over this? I am not saying stealing someone elses work is a small thing. But a quick note to CES to tell them what they had done and seeing how they responded might have settled this in a much better more christian manner.

OK, I read the article and am trying to understand what you found so strange about it. In a nutshell it says there is God, His enemy Satan are in a spiritual warfare and that there are spirit beings.. no surprises there. Ok and that the angels have a function. I can't think of a thing God has done that doesn't have a function all of which to help us bless us and bring us closer to him. I might question where he gets the numbers but not the part of one third. As far as it being Mormon-like, I think they both agree there are angels. If memory serves the Mormons believe angels are spirit beings waiting to be born as people for their trial on earth. Quite contrary to what the author said. Well he or she said angels aren't dead people but it in no way implied people had been angels either. So IMHO that comment kind of smacks as a strawman argument. OK I couldn't find a biblical reference that angels ride on car tops maybe they sit on the hood. But if is the humor you take exception to well ok you don't like the humor.. so what? Well anyway I was just curious what you found so inaccurate or "Mormon-like". And for that matter Mormans, just like everyone else are correct about some things. Best regards.. coup

Nameless, My answer would be the same irregarless of the organazation or religion of the one you were dating. When people come together from differing belief systems you need to proceed very carefully and have many discussions. This effects everything.. from where finances go to how to raise children... everything. While dating these things may seem far far away but after marriage they are everything. If this is someone you are truly interested in you have to have many long conversations before you decide to persue it. This is advice I give my daughter about anyone she is considering a relationship with. I will keep my opinions to myself about this particular group but you need to have many of these talks before you put too much time into this.

I never thought the Way was always right but I did for a time think they would fix the wrong when they saw it. It became appearant in the early 80's that was not so. When I disagreed with more doctrine than I agreed with and saw more behavior I disliked than approved of it was time to move on.

MJ .. ok that made me cry... mostly because I do too. I hope you.. I hope we all can get that back.

Refiner The Way recognizes that most churches have some truth as in you example of the Jehovah Witnesses and the trinity. ( Though they differ on some major points on that also.) But they believe they have the market cornered on all truth.