DaddyHoundog

I think if Jesus read these diatribes it would still boil down to the 2 commandments... "Are we ready to forgive...?" implies there will be a time we should be ready. that implies if one is never ready then they are not performing the "should" of that line of logic.... WE -- there is no such collective thing! God is {as I beleive} an individual God...not a collective God. my 2 cents, and I have read all the pages Lianne Pierce

FS is shippng out to WhiteDove tomorrow! What fun...We will also be sending a piccture of him in the Storybook Parade, and my daughters third grade class as well as some postcards!

washingtonweather here... I for one do not think the choice to forgive or not to forgive should be so tied to right or wrong....righteous or ---shall I say it....the unrewinded mind... It comes prety self righteous to say...the high road is only the road where forgiveness is "adverstised" I could not agree less.

Hey!! He arrived today from Canada! We will love hosting him...remind me where do I direct him to next? Lianne

i think she got the goods on em this time.

I vote Mac...we had a PC for 13 years and I grew up with a programmer for a Dad....Last year we got a Mac..OS10 Panther---love it...would never go back....plus they haave not made a virus that can get a Mac yet! and I also love our cordless mouse ...with both righty and lefty in the house it is NICE. also check: www.cnet.com for reviews washingtonweather

we ditched cable...added DSL and got Dish for 3 rooms, saved around 35 a month...as for the dish...we got the basic plan, but buy a lot of PPV...I can't handle the loudness in the theaters washingtonweather

we have not gotten him here yet.... :(-->

I think thaat just because --- people use the vocabulary "I think" or ""to me it means" doesn't mean that God did not work in them to show them something that inspired them directly, and consequently inspires you indirectly...possibly...if one might let that happen?.. Just a possibilitiy in my way of understanding God working in us to do and to wil etc... Washingtonweather

well, he aint one of our favorites after all the crap and greif he caused us.... I dont care if he was God's photographer (which I am sure that may have entered his mind) I would never hire him. Washingtonweather

school-- my thoughts as I am Washingtonweather posting under Daddyhoundog: Homeschooling is great if you can do it...not everyone can , wants to or feels competent. My contract UN neighbor lives in South Africa a lot...when they do, they homeschool. However, she still uses the KUMON math to handle higher level math. (KUMON is a world wide system started in Japan) My son goes to a computer based charter school. He is in 7th. He is now only 1 chapter away from finishing seventh grade English and is on track on everything else and only goes to school 13 hours a week. My daughter needs the extra services that Public school provides. Speech and certain special ed cirriculums I am not trained in. Problems arise if one has an autistic, or Downs child especially, there are not too many parents ready to take on these issues even in the children they love dearly, and know how to teach these disabilities effectively....but all that aside, and dealing with a "normal" child homeschooling seems to be a rewarding committment.

no ! I would say, those are the consequences. It was not me, but him who lived like that. Also given my Dad didn't change peoples lives in as direct a way or on a personnel level, he still had a very negative effect mine. He made his bed, he is lying in it...as a matter of fact he is still alive, I have not seen him in over ten years and have no desire to see him...get it? on the other hand, I am in constant communiation with my mother.

Om- my father helped Milton Freidman win the Nobel Prize for economics. He wrote the 3rd chapter in Miltie's book that won the prize. If I told any of those paternal cronies about my Dad... a. Don't you think they would think I had a vendetta b. I think they would look at me like I was crazy BUT MOSTLY C: I don't have to - to know what I had to deal with growing up....No mater what they thought...and most thought very well of my father. Your choosing to believe something based on the supposed validation of a relative is a poor excuse not to acknowledge the truth without the relative...its really a very nice sheild to hide behind for you....but as in the case of my dad...no matter what people thought--or whether they validated the perversions or not really doesn't amount to anything. If you have no clue what I am speaking about...check my earlier post.

yeah---Im a good heathen! Washn'Wear

you know a lot of these politicians promise crap and then the bill for it is prohibitive...then it gets blamed on the members of congress (cop-out) when in fact it should have never been promised in the first place....under the definition of a promise that it... PS: the scuttlebutt in the Democrat Camp in NM is that Richardson will be running with Hillary next time round...course thats if K+E don't win...if they do, guess they gotta wait 8 years....either way.. its the local heresay I voted for Perot years ago...and would do it again, don't think Nader's a good option either way...he's a better consumer advocate. Washingtonweather

on the other hand Bob, I sorta rejoice in iniquity...thinking that TWI falling would be a good thing. Washingtonweather

yeah I know Ex--its a "if the shoe fits" kind of thing ww

You know...to deviate a little , but maybe I can add perspective. I have a father who was famous in Computer Programming and Economics in the 70's. He was also very liberal and attended orgies, smoked a lot of pot, even sold some and had no qualms about leaving many (x) (xx) and (xxx) magazines around the house. We were wealthy and he traveled in all the "right" liberal affluent circles. If someone were to attack my mother for staying with him for the 17 years that she did try to work things out, I would come unglued! If someone was to start asking me questions about iwhat I thought I think I would blow them a new A**hole! How dare people revel in that kind of pain...unless you have lived it and can offer real healing solutions, you have no business butting into others business while they privatly cope with their own sad situations. Lianne Van Wormer Pierce! otherwise known as Washingtonweather PS: Sogwop...this was NOT directed at you..you had an innocent question, just that some of the lesser sensitive people around here think everyone owes them an explanation

I wanna see the piece of paper Kerry kept scribbling on after every 30 seconds....had to have changed papers once, but I think, personally, that he was doing nothing BUT scribbling like my youngest... I wanna see the paper!!!! WashN'wear

wnw here;; I dont like Kerry. I dont like his wife who was also a staunch reepublican while I lived in Pgh..who was also born in Mozambique...educated in Johannesburg... I dont like alll that Bush has done, but as Mom always said, Better the Devil you know than the devil you don't know.

well, I think Bush did not capatilize on Kerry error very well...ie Kerry already called the PM of Iraq a liar...can you imagine if he wins the first phone call in January to the PM of Iraq...suck it up Kerry...

Thank you Shaz...I came home today and my 12 yr old had dusted, vacuumed nad sorta mopped....I praised him and priased him....Albeit it was 12 yr old quality but nonetheless it was awesome! He fights when asked to do the dog poop though...but so did I when I was a kid. AND BY THE WAY we have the first Big Wheel he ever got at 4 yr old, becasue he sold toys at a garage sale to buy it...and the busted up thing that is left is too close to his heart for us to get rid of.

my son wants to go to Chaco Canyon and the Hot Air Ballon Fiesta starts tomorrow...we will do Stanley pictures there Washingtonweather http://www.nps.gov/chcu/ Ballon Cams http://balloonfiesta.com/index.php?categor...cams&page=index

Washingtonweather here: Ooooo Another book to run my life and run others lives by--- I stood in Costco and read this thing thinking....oh hmm a cleaned up bible tells me so ...' I dont think so, the church that I hang on the periphery of is doing this now....the amount of labor needs and helpin ght fellow christian out reminds me of a monumentus Way event...needless to say I have stayed away at this time. This book is just too schmarmy for me....and so is all the stuff people are knee deep in at the church...

would you ?? Its definately a bad case of embarassment to say the least Wnw