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I guess at the time, you could have said slavery was a political institution.  Still, it was germaine to Christianity because it couldn't continue without a certain reading of the Bible. 

If the owner doesn't want us discussing Zionism we won't.  I get plenty of that elsewhere, anyway.

I don't care about tippy toeing.  Romans 11:26, 'and so'. And so what? Well, what's he been talking about for three chapters!?  That all national Israel has always been saved?  Hardly. That's enough of that.

 

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You’ve put some basic logical fallacies to good use on this thread - Ad hominem, red herring, strawman, false equivalence… Mastering these is foundational to the Advanced Class.

You’re ready, friend-o!!

TWI Today should fit you like a hand in a…

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3 hours ago, Nathan_Jr said:

You’ve put some basic logical fallacies to good use on this thread - Ad hominem, red herring, strawman, false equivalence… Mastering these is foundational to the Advanced Class.

You’re ready, friend-o!!

TWI Today should fit you like a hand in a…

Not friends.  Hopefully you're so offended you don't come back.  Bye bye.

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17 hours ago, JoyfulSoul said:

So, if the Way is really sectarian right now, it's not going to work.  If in fact they really are doing better than most, there will be grace to mingle in and out of a diversity of ministries without stepping on territorialism. ...

What does that have to do with The Way?  It may be one step closer to oneness realized with the rest of the body.

On your next visit, try asking who might have visited any recognised church within, say, 5 or 10 miles (choose your distance - even 100 miles), in the last 12 months to attend a regular service
Or what would happen if someone from within 5 or 10 miles decided to come into the auditorium, or the BRC, or wherever TWI hold its services now.   How welcome would they be?
Or if a homeless person dressed in poor clothing decided to enter any part of the grounds (not just the auditorium).  How welcome would they be?

Ask who is welcome at the Rock.  Open to anyone, open to Christians across the board, or only open to Wayfers?

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18 hours ago, Nathan_Jr said:

You’ve put some basic logical fallacies to good use on this thread - Ad hominem, red herring, strawman, false equivalence… Mastering these is foundational to the Advanced Class.

You’re ready, friend-o!!

TWI Today should fit you like a hand in a…

You missed one, Rocky.  Holy Carp is right!

Or, do you guys just attack like a pack to take down ideas you don't like?

Now, if you're too offended to come back...hint, hint..

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I'm surprised that the new guy- the one who objects to moderation of both formal and informal kinds- thinks he's qualified to decide who should and should not come back here.  

"Hopefully you're so offended you don't come back.  Bye bye."

"Now, if you're too offended to come back...hint, hint.."

 

Everyone is welcome to post here. Even the obnoxious are welcome to post here, and people with unpopular points of view as well.   Keep in mind that posting obnoxiously A) will draw posts of similar tone in reply

and   B) will sooner or later draw warnings and formal moderation

 

All of which, of course, get used as "evidence" that the person was never treated fairly.  "Look how unfairly they treated me."   Lots of posters have been allowed to continue posting after having been ASKED NICELY BY THE MODERATORS to behave.  Some of those have used that allowance to post twice as obnoxiously on a thread, insult the moderation staff, and complain in general.   At that point, the moderators HAVE to pull the plug.

I'm being reminded of someone who manufactures a complaint at a nice restaurant so they have an excuse to refuse to leave a tip. 

If you just don't like it here, you can just stop posting. Go somewhere you like it.  Maybe come back and post later, if you like things better some other time.  This is the internet in 2025, you can do that.

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20 hours ago, JoyfulSoul said:

Moderators and self appointed moderators.  FTR, law and order is not an American concept.

All messageboards have moderation.

Some boards work fine with informal moderation- posters just point out something is wrong, bad, or not allowed, and the posters have the self-discipline to control themselves afterwards.

Most boards require at least some moderation, because boards with zero moderation descended into incoherent noise as trolls overran the boards.  (We're talking the 1990s, generally.)  Since then, there's always someone in charge of making sure things don't devolve so badly that normal posters can't get in a word between 20 pages of trolls flooding the board.

 

If you don't like the way a board is run, make up your own board, and invite who you want. Then you can feel free to snub me or anyone else you don't like because we're not allowed there.

You can also just find a different board you like. There's no constitutional right to the GSC.   There's also a lot of disagreement on the GSC because there's room for a lot of disagreement on the GSC.  If you're getting static from several members, you've actually found something that disparate members can agree upon- even if that something is "you're posting like a jerk."   With all the room for disparate opinions here, I think that may be one of very few things where a consensus can be found on the GSC.

 

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50 minutes ago, WordWolf said:

Most boards require at least some moderation, because boards with zero moderation descended into incoherent noise as trolls overran the boards.  (We're talking the 1990s, generally.)  Since then, there's always someone in charge of making sure things don't devolve so badly that normal posters can't get in a word between 20 pages of trolls flooding the board.

Including a prominent forerunner of GSC. Perhaps our "Joyful" "friend" encountered it back in the 1990s. ;) 

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Alright, you can conflate this one thread that I started with the entire board and every other thread. You can do that but you are also being called out.

You can conflate regular board members with those being identified as authorities here but you are being called out for that, too.

I am not enjoying my interactions with WordWolf, Nathan Jr and Rocky.   I'm not going to respond to them anymore.   If I am faulted for something I'm doing or not doing please take note that I chose disengagement over distasteful tit for tat.  If it simply comes down to mob rule then my time here is done, anyway.  Honest, that's not what I came here for.

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1 hour ago, JoyfulSoul said:

Honest, that's not what I came here for.

As I recall, when you first started posting here, you said you were looking to expand your knowledge and operation of the revelation and impartation manifestations. How would you rate your experience in that regard?

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1 hour ago, waysider said:

As I recall, when you first started posting here, you said you were looking to expand your knowledge and operation of the revelation and impartation manifestations. How would you rate your experience in that regard?

IIRC, Joe Maslow arrived just before him, curious about those. I know he got SOME answers. He was also a lot nicer about asking.

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10 hours ago, WordWolf said:

IIRC, Joe Maslow arrived just before him, curious about those. I know he got SOME answers. He was also a lot nicer about asking

Sorry. Got a lot on my plate, these days. I need to pay closer attention.

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