Your posts ring true to me.
I know for a fact Craig worked at Bally's in Toledo as a personal trainer. I went there and saw for myself. It was within a year of his being tossed from his throne at twi. At that point, his personal bio (which all the personal trainers wrote and printed themselves) was a perfect picture of the Craig I knew while living and working around him at Emporia and HQ... while the other bios were printed on plain white paper and spoke in terms of "I did it, I can help you do it, too", his was completely highlighted in yellow, filled with corny jokes, and clearly the writings of someone with a hefty ego. (there is an old thread here somewhere where someone actually got a picture of the top half of his bio)
I do not doubt you have recently encountered a man who seemed "broken" and "lost". He had it all. He lost it all. That's gotta hurt, whether you were the biggest scumbag on the face of the earth or not; whether you did it to yourself or not. But is it true remorse? I seriously doubt it. I believe that people CAN and DO change, but I believe they must first come to a true self-realization. It's easy to say something bad happened, and blame others. It's much harder to admit what part you played, even if it was just that you were manipulated by a manipulator. To really conquor our past, and move on, I think we must ask ourselves, "why did I join this group? what was I hoping for? why didn't I see/heed the warning signs? why did I stay as long as I did?" --- if the shoe fits, people, if the shoe fits --- You have to admit to yourself that you made mistakes; even if those mistakes were out of innocence, naivete and good will. -- Let's face it, some of us simply made the mistake of trusting the wrong people.
The man you describe sounds to me like someone who is still wallowing in the "why me?" stage of hurt, not someone who is facing the hard truth about himself.
But, your posts have made me think a little deeper about Craig's situation than I ever cared to before:
1) Freud says he got the sense that Craig was "underemployed". As stated by another poster, a good job at UPS (or wherever he is now working) is not a bad job for the average Joe. But if Craig still has a sense that he "should be" SOMEBODY, then he will definately feel that he is underemployed. And, if he dares to think about what his life would have been like without twi, I'm sure he knows that with a college degree under his belt he probably could have at least risen to middle-management in some company and be making more than he is now.
2) What about Donna... what the heck kind of wife stays in her comfy home, with her comfy job and her comfy friends, forsaking the man she is still married to? Make a real choice, woman... either you love the guy and care about him (ie- go BE with him and help him through this) OR you don't care a whit about him, only about propping up your own image (ie-divorce the guy, already!!!) --- Freud refers to her as Craig's "ex-wife"... Freud, did Craig refer to her that way, or is that your assumption... I thought they were still married, just living separately?
--- if they are still married, that's gotta be playing with his brain!
3) If twi is still supporting him in some capacity, as has been speculated here (with some supporting evidence: the big-wig twi doctor and the deed to the house; his visits to Gunnison), then how can he truly dismiss everything he was taught to be and do? In his own mind, if he had truly done wrong wouldn't they sever all ties? And what is the current leadership telling him to justify their two-facedness... we really do support you, Craig, but our lawyers won't let you be king anymore? You really messed up, Craig, but since you were once God's man we cannot raise the back of our hand to you? How can he make a clean break, if they don't let go of him?
At any rate... I would go with the words of Ronald Reagan: trust, but verify.
I am one of those that was "outed" by the WayGB because I posted on a forum. My local leadership confronted me with copies of my posts. They threw me out of their ministry, I lost a job over it, and it was the final straw which broke up my marriage. If you have more encounters with L. Craig Martindale, and you feel you can help him face up to his past and find genuine healing, go for it. But at all times protect yourself and your family, and watch your back. You don't really know what's going on with this guy...
This post has been edited by TheHighWay: 19 April 2006 - 09:57 AM