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Wierwille made it clear about his thoughts and policy on retirement. Time and again, he spotlighted Dorothy Owens and Rhoda Wierwille as examples in how a believer conducts himself/herself in retirement......ie, KEEP WORKING. As Oldskool pointed out.... things changed after the Allen lawsuit. Quite the benevolent ministry, eh? Only when lawyers and legalities get involved does twi get backed into a corner to do the "morally-right thing."

Play the victim...then become the agressor....then play the victim...rinse...repeat.

I have thought it through. After all, you are whining that we should be paying attention to the positives and ignore the negatives. You know why people tell you to be positive? Because being positive makes you a sucker. Being positive will allow you to snarf down Saint Vic's bull like pot brownies. Then by the time you realize you've been had, it's too late. Now, YOU think that through for a minute. Oh really? Tell me, what do I see here? Sometime back, I went to a local bar. As the live music played on, a Mormon chose to witness to me. I asked him several questions, which he promptly ignore and continued spouting his doctrine. You see he wasn't interested in me as a person at all. He wanted somebody to teach, to lord over, as that's how most people see the teacher-student relationship. Say, didn't you once say you wanted to teach people here and when I asked you if you were willing to learn you said no? You see, when I taught people about computers, I learned as much from them as they did from me. That's the correct student-teacher dynamic. So what do I get when I communicate with you? Questions you refuse to answer, accusations that people are trying to trip you up, and somehow, you have the time to write a doctrinal piece half a page long,but you never have enough time to answer questions on a previous post. All contributing to the sense you're attempting to hide something.

Haha - McPFAL That is what the splinters are. Same franchise with a new clown up front.

man....dont you guys ever sleep....lol.. Rocky - don't forget the entertainment value of posting with Mike. That cannot be overlooked...lol

I try to stay on Mike's good side because I figure, if and when he gets his class together (I'm believing for a film class.), he might let me be in charge of refreshments. I can stretch coffee with the best of them and make those old foam cups look almost new. I have a secret way of making lipstick stains barely noticeable. Or, I could string some chairs, unless I've forgotten how to do it. I probably wasn't paying close enough attention to the fine details of the process like I should have the first time around. There's a lot of nuance that gets lost on us old grads as time catches up with us. That's why we have to come back to the guiding oversight of those who have mastered the process.

Your delusions run deeper than I thought. Every man is right in his own eyes. Really, you haven't disproved or proved much of anything to anyone else's satisfation except your own. Your ramblings about how long I was involved in TWI remind me of endless genalogies that we are supposed to avoid. Jesus Christ is no longer flesh and blood according to scripture so why would God need to hide Jesus away? Put pflap down dude...it's scrambled your judgement. Jesus Christ is no longer flesh and blood but a life giving spirit. Makes sense considering God gave holy spirit to Jesus Christ on the day of Pentecost and it was Christ that poured it out. 1 Corinthians 15:45 If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. which adds significant light to" 2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Obviously, victor paul wierwilles fleshly mind couldnt comprehend spiritual matters and still considered Jesus Christ a flesh and blood being forever more and the only thing that made sense to him was was he was physically absent. or... He understood perfectly well and purposely led people astray for his own lusts and greedy gain..