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Long ago after I escaped TWI, I was encouraged by Jo*n Ly*n not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater." At the time, he was running a TWI offshoot group and recycling much of VPW's plagiarized biblical research. That phrase stayed with me. In 2009, I wrote the attached article after much discussion here about that topic, and it was posted here on GSC for a while (after the redesign, it disappeared). Today, I think it's relevant to this topic, so here you go. Happy holidays, Greasespotters! Charlene Nostalgia _TWI_CEdge.pdf

here's an article about where thoughts come from https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/10/21/where-do-our-thoughts-come-from/?sh=45bf3f8c2ee2

Seriously WTF . . . Is Mike a verified human?

I thought you were involved?

She should have used birth control in this instance.

Interesting article. The nostalgia described reminds me of how targets often claw their way back in an effort to reclaim the "idealization phase" of the narcissistic abuse cycle.

I have a dual answer. Yes and no. Yes doing farm chores as a young man had benefit. Yes other things benefitted me as well. Yes God looked after me during that time, and prepared for me a Psalm 23 table. But either program did NOTHING for maturing me AS A CHRISTIAN. In both cases I was disciplining to BS. The warped interpretation of the Bible I built into my habits made it WORSE when things played out as they usually do in cults with compliance obedience free will and shunning those who leave. I WAS a CORPS NAZI. We all were as much as I want to reshape history about how loving I was and really and exception. I was not an exception. As a WOW I was a bigger @$$hole. Confronting brothers and sisters in Christ about perceived accuracy of the Word, hounding people into taking classes, taking part in “pushes” for classes signing up the near homeless. So overall it would have been better if I had heeded my pastors warning and not taken PFAL. It led me down a multiple decade rabbit hole that it has not been easy to extract myself from. With that said, God is still God and produces amazing things from the most dire circumstances if you let Him and trust Him.

Yeah, I should have waited a couple years before going into FellowLaborers. (The program was canceled 2 years after I graduated...Hahahahahahaha!)

If one cares to read in the OT, there's very good reasons why a man was permitted to have more than one wife. In one particular case, it was where a man had died without issue (probably, without having a son). His brother was to marry the widow. (1) The first child then born of that union would be credited to the deceased brother, to keep his name in Israel and to inherit his portion of the land. (2) The widow would also be provided for - remember, no widows' pension arrangements in the OT. Remember the story of Onan - who "cast his seed on the ground"? I'll let you "research" or even just plain re-read that. And the man's "duty" to his second or subsequent wives was to be exactly the same as to the first wife. She was not to lack food, raiment or care - specifically, sexual pleasure. (Certainly in modern Judaism, did you know that sexual satisfaction is considered to be the right of the wife - not the right of the husband?) David married his second wife, Abigail, wife of Nabal the Carmelite, who had just dropped dead, to protect her in a time when women had few protections. Don't know why he married the others - lust? political unions? I have no idea how he could provide equally for al his wives, much less his unfortunate concubines. And just because he had all these women, don't be thinking for one second that that was God-sanctioned. God's idea is one man with one wife. Says that at the beginning of the bible, and is repeated in the epistles.

In light of the FACT of the hundreds of errors in the film, why keep pushing it? Why not correct it and improve it? Or why not just throw the whole thing out and only sell books and collaterals?

All cults have tremendously thorough hamster wheels to run on.

Food for thought: 15 years out of my 70 in TWI makes 21% (rounded off). Googled that as a pie chart. The green represents TWI time. Gives me a lot of perspective! So much of my life NOT in a cult and JUST as much my life as the 21%. Just some musings on a Friday.