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Yeah. For some reason I didn't notice the time stamp. It's a Wonder-Stevie Kay (mid to late 1970s) Her voice reminds me a lot of Joan Baez. Probably the fast vibrato.

Geeze. A couple years ago, I was told I'm bitter. Now I'm hateful. What's next, grumpy old fart?...Oh, wait a minute..

Do joyful souls generally project hate?

She taught music in Colorado.

Her voice was much purer and controlled than Stevie Nicks. (in my opinion)

In 3 part harmony!

Stevie Kay – It's A Wonder – Vinyl (7", Promo), 1977 [r12806992] | Discogs

Isn't the singer at the 15:40 mark actually Stevie Kay?

One of the things that I used to love in TWI was music, I own most of their music digitally and Cds, vinyl, cassette. God Bless U

The group is Pressed Down, Shaken Together and Running Over (PDSTRO) Christ is Coming is probably the title. Not sure. It might be on their eponymous album. (1971 or 1972?)

All they research is OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK. Still banging on about "faith" and "believing." They might want to pay attention to the book of James, specifically at ch.2. Unfortunately we know all too well what are TWI's deeds and works. And the only physical needs that are provided for are the adulterous needs of leaders. Let's see some of their faith/believing/call it what you will, by them first apologising for past behaviour, seeking out their victims with genuine remorse, and now getting on with genuinely helping their local community without any expectation of reward or recognition. Without doubt there will be homeless, impoverished or hungry people within a very short radius of HQ; families who are in "heat or eat" mode or have other financial difficulties; those who can't afford medical bills, etc.

Oh, that VeePee. What a jokester, huh?

"Working this topic...working the word...work the word..." -- VPW/TWI "If it doesn't fit, ya gotta MAKE it fit." -- VPW

IIRC, Joe Maslow arrived just before him, curious about those. I know he got SOME answers. He was also a lot nicer about asking.

As I recall, when you first started posting here, you said you were looking to expand your knowledge and operation of the revelation and impartation manifestations. How would you rate your experience in that regard?

Mmmph

I'm surprised that the new guy- the one who objects to moderation of both formal and informal kinds- thinks he's qualified to decide who should and should not come back here. "Hopefully you're so offended you don't come back. Bye bye." "Now, if you're too offended to come back...hint, hint.." Everyone is welcome to post here. Even the obnoxious are welcome to post here, and people with unpopular points of view as well. Keep in mind that posting obnoxiously A) will draw posts of similar tone in reply and B) will sooner or later draw warnings and formal moderation All of which, of course, get used as "evidence" that the person was never treated fairly. "Look how unfairly they treated me." Lots of posters have been allowed to continue posting after having been ASKED NICELY BY THE MODERATORS to behave. Some of those have used that allowance to post twice as obnoxiously on a thread, insult the moderation staff, and complain in general. At that point, the moderators HAVE to pull the plug. I'm being reminded of someone who manufactures a complaint at a nice restaurant so they have an excuse to refuse to leave a tip. If you just don't like it here, you can just stop posting. Go somewhere you like it. Maybe come back and post later, if you like things better some other time. This is the internet in 2025, you can do that.

It's taken me about 25-30 years to heal from the TWI experience too. But happily not that long to buy my house. I messed around for a decade, afraid to make any decisions of any kind. Finding this place helped me heal a lot. But nothing disappeared instantly. I bought my house with much trepidation in 2007. I made overpayments every year when I could. I think my 25 year mortgage ran originally till I was 74, but it has been repaid (YIPPEE) for several years now, thanks to very diligent efforts on my part. It was either pay off the house, or pay into a pension scheme, not enough for both. I am entitled to get state pension (not a lot) but the thought of a mortgage as a pensioner was horrible. I have deferred claiming my pension because for every 9 weeks that I defer, I get a small uplift in the amount received. And, praise the Lord, he had a plan for me to get a pension anyway. I am getting married soon and my husband has a big pension and on his decease I will get half his amount, which, together with my state pension, will be more than I have ever earned in my life! As WordWolf mentioned earlier, we have a variety of beliefs here. I'm in the "God is good" category. I go to a great church which is very involved with the community around it. I do not subscribe to the standard beliefs of my church (am still non-trini) and I would go elsewhere if I felt the church was "off" in its treatment of parishioners. Well, no, first I would have a "what's going on?" session with any leadership that seemed off, and would escalate that if necessary. The days of being beaten down by nasties like TWI leadership are long gone. But so far, nothing has raised any red flags, nor seems likely to.

For those of you asking. The Way is no longer supporting "tithing", in their STS they talk about "GIVE" and in the last fellowship I participated I was encourage to give freely. So they are not longer asking for 15% even for graduates of the advanced class ( I was) The Way has changed in the recent years? For sure, ¿ real changes? Not at all. TWI is bringing back the "good old years", uploading VPW teachings on their Youtube Channel, offering basically the same content. And hiding some of their core teachings in order to look more appealing to a younger crowd. Good people in TWI? For sure, you can find good people everywhere. You'll receive a lot of love in the beginning (Love-bombing uhh) ; as long as you don't commit to the ministry, they won't ask much of you. When you become deeply involved with TWI, the hell and abuse begin. And even though LCM's abusive tactics are no longer as prevalent, the emotional and psychological manipulation persists. I left TWI a little over two years ago. If you have any question about current TWI, just ask. Have a good day!

In my opinion, The Way is not a reformation of the church, first century or otherwise. It's the remnants of a devious MLM scam, built on lies and plagiarism. I'm not bitter, just stating the factual reality. Not only is the vast majority of the material content plagiarized, it's filled with inaccurate assertions, such as "the four crucified", the so-called "law of believing", roosters that crowed differently 2,000 years ago, special bar mitzvas for illegitimate boys, inerrancy of scripture, bogus tithing requirements and on and on and on. The Way is and was a lot of things. A reformation of the church is not one of them.

Sorry to hear that... well, we know now there's abundant life outside of TWI. Thank you for posting and please continue!

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with trauma, PTSD or the sting of being ripped off. I was about to agree with you until you leaned on the cult trope of "crying about decades old offenses". These offenses include rape, sir. They include taking my teenage friends for abortions financed by a handful of money dipped from a free bucket of cash called "tithes". Perhaps giving your entire childhood to a movement that turned out to be a fraud run by grifters and perverts, stings a little. "Crying" isn.t weakness. It is a basic human emotions. If you don't cry while you're recovering from a literal attack on everything you are and everything you have, then you're the one with the problem. And by the way, I don't see anyone "crying" in the replies to your post. I see people who learned the hard way and are trying to warn you that these offenses, not all of which are "decades" old, hurt people. People still haven't recovered. Some people died, MAN. Do you have any idea the number of people who have died as a direct result of trauma from this cult? I have friends who died in accidents and were blamed for not being holy enough. It's gross. There is also no rule that says if you're "crying" about the way's literal crimes, that means that we aren't walking with Jesus. That is a fallacy. Both things can be true. You can walk with Jesus and be wise to The Way's bullcrap. And when we meet a person who says they went to HQ and everyone was so nice, we want you to know that trusting in this group will deceive you and you might not even know it's happening. If you want to stick your hand on the burner to see if fire is really hot, go ahead. You've been warned. But don't pretend that we are all crying. We were trying to warn you.

The foolish man built his house upon the sand and the rains came down and the floods came up... Glad they were nice to you. They are a poorly researched, mean spirited cult who worshipped a man and paid the price. They turned a blind eye to assaults of all kinds, theft, adultery, abuse of children and they separated families. This went on for decades, heck half a century plus. But I am glad they were nice to you.