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HERE ARE SOME FOLK id like to find. Tony Craft,Santia Snell,(13th Palma Driscul,7th Jim Ferrio,5th Susan Miller,7th Chris Pervangie),Tovah Finnman,(family? Randy and Randy Smith)Gabe Ortize, his sister Anna Copper that is all iI can think of now and...Wackyfunster or bancho thanks

ARE THE DEAD ALIVE NOW? HUMMMMMMMM! I hope not.Do you know what a dead body looks and smells like after a while? "Thriller" revisited. At this point in my spiritual walk it equates to "wheither Adem had a belly-botton or not" It's not that important to me to know.

"Well kids it's alot of things." Ops, I didn't mean to say that. WAYBRAIN snucked in. Marrige is an institution that was made up by man. Do your research and you'll see. Sooo what's the Beeef? What I do believe is a spiritual heart felt commitment between two people is the issue. The majority of folks that do get hitched don't have a vital relationship with God and/or are amotional and mentally unhealthy. Lots of baggage goes into the union. Breakups are do to immaturity,ingonrance and a lack of skills during the hard moments. Yea I do beleive that commitment in this day and time has been deluted or minimized to mean "when I feel like it or when it is convient" When two people join in the union of an integral relationship, gender is really insignifacant. So what speaks volumes to me is what is lived rather then what is legal. With the gay community I think for some, they just want legal recognition for what spiritual, amotionally and lovenly has been in place for years. Don't you beleive though that after the hoopla has settled the devorce rate among gays will be equal to hetro marriges.Marrige or the family unit is not the thing in crisis here. The state of our human experiance is. We are a world that is perdominatly "self" orintated and narrsistic. And because of that any relationship will struggle and suffer weither hetro,gay,black white,young or old. So my hat is off to any one that has that selfless spiritual union married or not.

having multiple addictions, the religious and institutioual addiction startrd in jr. high. Florida Bible College-7 yrs. 14-21 y/o TWI-11 yrs. 21-32 y/o US Army- 6 yrs. 32-38 y/o after that co-dependency was my drug (38-44 y/o) mixed with alcohol. Recovery to present-3 yrs. 45-47 y/o When you have addictive behavior it is real easy to make anything a "drug of choice," including the Bible. Thank God I now know the difference between spirituality and compulsive religious behavior.I was a good find for TWI .

I work at a residential treatment center for kid and i know even the youngest of kid are effected. So i dont think it is a learned social behavior. I will say that the most powerful sensis I have ever had was over a full moon. I looked up in the heavens and thought "I am seeing what Jesus Christ saw... 2000 yrs ago. I am sure King David saw the same thing and wondered How great thou art. For some reason the reality of J.Cs existence was confirmed ,validated or just the realization I too at a different point in time was able to see what he also viewed. Made me feel special and close to Him.

finally got through all the good stuff. great names. IMBUS is a mis-spelling of IMBAS. If you read any of my post you will find loads of grammatical error. Im pretty typing illiterate too. IMBAS is a gaelic word for "devine inspiration". I started getting into my heritage resently. After leaving twi and living with no direction for over ten years I finally cam back to my earthly family. Although my history with them was abusive I needed to have some roots somewhere. I started looking into my mothers heritage and found a place to belong. I read a book by Frank MacEowen called "The Mist-Filled Path" In it, it spoke of a spiriuality that resinated with me. Thus the word Imbas. To understand all the neuances you have to read the book. ohhhhh...why the worm??? I love to read and ponder, not to mention that without the earth worm there would be no fertle ground for growth.

thank you who have responded in kindness. this is the last of my issues and yet the most painful to address. The betrayal runs so deep. when I allow my self to wonder into memory land about TWI my heart aches for what could have been. Christinity at its finest hour. But it is a story once again of religious pioty gone amuck at the expence of the pure hearted. I like the culture of the Aboriginies. From a very young age spirituality is recognized in the young child.The morals and collective good is taught,what is best for the group. By the example set by the mature and elderly, children by the time of adolesence know their connectedness to the land, each other and to the "oneness" that is in all.Their gifts are recognized and developed by the elders as the children easily manifest them.If that is the longsuit of that child then it is respected and honored. Weither it be story telling ,cerimonial worship, hunting, basket weaving or herb finder. all is sacrad and a nessisity of the group.These people live a harmony that is breath taking.From within to everything that is without.A ONENESS THAT CANNOT BE VERBALIZE NOR DOES IT HAVE TO. so now I see christianities finest hour living in a culture that is as old as the beginning of time.It has no written language and communication is between the minds." You just know " It makes me have to ask some hard honest questions about what I believe. I know im in a first wold country were i dont have to beleive for my daily bread, like they do. Maybe thats the problem. We have moderinized our lives to the point that the nessisity of God no longer exist.At least the traditional God we have been taught.I do believe in a higer power (he, she, it, they). But that higer power is being redfined as my spiritual core is allowed to live and have the freedom to ponder and concider what resinates and what do not. So it is a journey( much like the Aboriginies "walk about"),that is the defining moment of who and what God is to me. I have a sneaking suspition that what I might find may be far removed from the Christianity of the last 2000 years. "ONENESS HAPPENS"

I have been in recovery for 2 years for the abuses incured by my parents and being a follower of TWI.I had been severly abusesed by my parents growing up, so to follow TWI was a part of the cycling that I learned as child.I got involved with twig in 76. Jeff and Diane Tyler were wow twig-leaders in Miami FLA. Those two loved me back into living.At the time I was suisidal, had a psycotic break and was desperate. The Bible college I had attened prior to twig was extremly fundemental.I was taught that if I did not witness to people there blood would be on my hands.With that type of doctrine and my earthly father using the bible as a club ,I was very valnerable to hear and see something powerful and loving.I was loved bombed by the Tylers,Harvy Platig and his wow broyher,Walter. PFAL changed my life. I now had a way to contol my intrusive thoughts and a means to put the abuse of my parents behind.The anxiety I felt 24-7 was used as a tool to move PFAL.Its theraputic name is exsessive/ compulsive disorder. I went wow in 77. After a few years of going wow I finally went into the 15th wc.My first year was filled with so much amotional hell I should have left . Diane Tyler had commited suiside and no one gave me a reason why. Pat Lynn acused me of being a homosxual,guilt bt assocation and all my sins were put on a 3x5 card by a over zelous 13th corps breathern.I went befor John Lynn and was put on a 2 week probationary period. I had to get my act together or leave. Well TWI was my family now and leaving was out of the question. I endured public humilation, was taken of my assigned job working in the Banchi apt. and put on refinishind desk were I could do no harm. What harm I do not know.I was also held back from going LEAD with my group. I was watched 24-7. I did not amotionally breath till I graduated from the Corps. One of the abuses I have hade to work through was that of the film shown as part of "Bedside manners" I was very nieive twards sex and was looking forward to understanding it in a healthy way.(My parents example of marrage and sex was very distorted.Women were victumized and treated a second class citzens.)To say the least I was tramatized by what I saw. Even though I was age approprate, emotionally I was not prepared for the images I saw.To see women only in that film spoke volumes of what VP sub-concsciencly thought of women.There was no warning just the film.That class also spiritually set a standard for what a womens role is and it was not about partnership or equality. The Way Corps taught me not to trust my own inner core being, not to look outside of its own closed-system for help and certainly not to think for myself.I have struggled for decades to be my own person and thank God for greaspot...it is happening. I attend AA mtngs because of alcoholism,I take Paxil for my anxiety and have done some extensive EMDR work through a therapist.I'm finally at home with my core self. My nurturing,protective and spiritual core is alive and well. One of the books that has released me from the bonds of traditional,fundemental christianity is "Why christianity must change or Die" by John Shelby Spong.It's a great read. So much more had happened while i was in the wc, lots more. But for now I submit this bit of info and hope that those in a spiritual or emotional delima will know you are not alone.

i would like to find susan too. she kept me grounded on my intrim year at h.q if it wasnt for her and the sharing of hearts over a glass of wine i dont think i would be alive today. it was her love and acceptance that made me feel sane when everyone else at h.q was going nuts with accusations in 86. i really hope to find her and thank her.

yea, 15th corps here. Emporia 1st yr, HQ 2nd and Gunnison 3rd. nearly lost my mind 1st year.almost left. should have. that year damn near distoyed me. im in recovery and healing from all the insanities of leader ship. glad to be out and healing.