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That's what I've wondered. For a while. What is it exactly that *they* are doing? *Doing* being the key phrase in the question. Have they *finally* (questionably) gotten up, and gotten their thumbs out of their.. asses? So what are they actually DOING?

Hope it was a day of gladness, good health.. hope you have many more..

I think they are.. they just don't know it, yet.. I'd substitute.. "these guys.. are OPPORTUNISTS.." intelligent, yes. I love human logic.. but it only goes so far, even for me..

If you love your kids.. that's just starters.. ripping the damn sticker off your car, that is.. and you'd BETTER sound damned convincing.. to the kids, that is.. I wouldn't be emotional about it.. I'd be very, very logical.. it might be too late for some.. but if you don't at least try.. well.. its your life.. no *big deal*, eh?

The "scariest" part of this, at least to me.. parents actually trust their own offspring with these jokers.. solely on the basis that they don't believe in a Trinity.. no kidding.. forget character, years of insane doctrine and behavior.. "well, they won't *contaminate* my kid with more than *one god*.." for lack of better words.. maybe the *objectors* of the phrase can give me a better description.. how much more "cult brained" can someone be..

That's about it.. It almost sounds like a disease, or a diseased mind.. what then might be the cure? I dunno.. maybe there is one place in the human psyche they either cannot, or are merely too terrified to look.. the prospect that they might actually be WRONG.

the board apparently documented his "behavior" in the way, and BEYOND.. but they aren't exactly publishing what happened in their little meeting. Yep.. now they hold the heartstrings of some, with regard to the CHILDREN. Where will they go.. what will they do.. reminds me of something.. the ironic part of this, they are actually paying to have the fella to play the flute, and call the kids off somewhere..

What are the parents afraid of? Afraid their kid will hear a sermon on the Trinity or something? naw.. we don't want them to become "possessed" out there in the world.. we want them to learn how to get possessed in the right way,and enjoy the "fellowship" among the ranks of false prophets..

Makes sense. But still.. as a PARENT.. knowing: 1. The organization was fronted for decades, largely by a fella who by his own self-admission participated in seventeen extr-marital affairs in his way days, no idea how many (if any) after he left.. or rather, was fired.. 2. a board used false (personal) prophecies to war amongst themselves.. and to this day, STILL is not accountable to their followers.. 3. after DECADES of knowing the "deep character faults" of the guy who fronted the organization, finally, only when he proved himself to be an arrogant, ineffective and "unprofitable" buffoon, did they choose to cut ties.. 4. Has a president, who previously had to do "extensive" research, to figure out adultery was biblically "wrong".. maybe that's why he thinks he has some kind of *ministry* or something.. 5. Not to mention the momentus fiasco, and its resulting effects on the organization.. apparently ending(?) with throwing Gr*eser and Lynn off the "lifeboat".. they probably think lynns reply to all this to be claiming a "victim" mentality.. as a PARENT, I would rather see my kid involved in the Salvation Army, or the United Way, in the local volunteer recycling group, or whatever.. anything but this kind of *organization*, with its track record of DECADES of nonsense.. even a (gawd forbid) CHURCH..

Welcome, Heckler. I wouldn't call it a "dangerous" place. I think its more like, uncontrolled, by religious sentiments. People are generally friendly I think, but most don't seem to be moved by old (or newer) way catch-phrases.. a lot of us don't owe some organization fifteen percent of our incomes to harvest God's spit in our direction.. or owe our very lives to some organization..

Interesting point. Though knowing what we know about the inner workings of the group, how many would want their kids to go to the stiffi church?

The lords of time destroyed them all, utterly.. except for one.. energy weapons were useless. the great vampires transmuted the energy to their advantage. so Rassilon ordered the production of bow ships. This if fiction, in it's finest.. ships fitted to project rods or shafts of steel.. to destroy the hearts of the great vampires.. only in t his manner, could they be defeated.. this was the fictional battle.. so bloody, and so long, that the time lords abandoned battle forever..kinda like the war against terrorism.. I dunno..

Sooo.. nobody wants to know what a bow ship is?

Where is one of Rassilon's filthy bow ships when one needs one.. sweet dreams, everyone..

I'm really starting to think they are some kind of modern day vampires.. can't live in the light of day.. draining the blood and life out of anyone who will stand still long enough, mesmerized by their religion.. well, I have a vivid imagination. Make of it what you will..

if they would sacrifice jl (rightly or wrongly) on the altar of their unclean organization, what do you think they'd do with YOU, the ordinary follower.. off the boat you'd go in a heartbeat.. they are momentus "grads" for crying out loud.. what better would you expect of them?

hmmmm. It was a "momentus" moment.. they killed the (another) victim..

Oh, I forgot. The questions were addressed to jl.. seems he was a victim of a bizarre momentus lifeboat experience, left over from the old days. who's left there who can answer questions?

So.. its been what.. two whole years and a couple of months.. and STILL there is no accountability? No real explanations.. nothing? But they hold the "followers" accountable.. to "give as much as they can.."

I wonder.. does he consider himself a modern day "levite"? At this point, anybody STILL willing to throw money their way, I question said persons sanity..

Thought it proper to pull up the first post on this thread. Its been what.. over two years? No real reply, yet?

Seems this is an almost long forgotten thread.. still, is the crisis over yet fellas?

Maybe you need to hire ole Rico to inform your followers of all the peas and peanuts or something.. I'm sure he's freelancing now..

the words that come to mind.. would probably get the administrators onslaughts of objections of indecent language.. so how did the big "meeting" go, fellas? I didn't see any report on the stffi website.. no real news here.. whatsup?

I honestly.. can't see why ANYBODY would spend one more measly, lousy cent on that organization.. does j.s. actually have people brainwashed to the extent they believe he REALLY has some kind of "ministry".. prophet, or apostle.. or some such? compare the sower and the podcast.. "nobody else is teaching christians how to really live da word.." "you're not giving enough.." how much longer will people buy into this scam? I'm with Oldskool on another thread.. let them get a day job, and publish their little letters and podcasts on the weekends.. Oh. Maybe with their "developed" job skills, they can't get a job..