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What makes me wonder.. when the *mighty* rozilla passes from this life.. what is to come after her..

hmmm. Seventy some years old.. isn't it at this point.. kinda beyond "pathetic"? just saying.. I mean.. what can one really do at seventy.. what's the deal here? maybe all that's left is a long forgotten sense of loyalty or something..

How many did you count? I count (a disturbing) three. but I guess it all depends on what you are counting..

I *almost* got to see them in Tampa a couple of months ago.. I dunno what happened. I'll modify what I was going to post.. my original thought had something to do with his age. That is all. I'll say no more..

before his "assumption" into his "exalted" position.. didn't he admit to whiteside something like "did you know three times attempts have been made on my life.." or something like that? yep.. the young "tender" years in the denomination.. probably some angry husband or something..

how do you know that? I'd cite the vicster on how *little* sins are as bad as *big* ones.. but maybe that would be fruitless.. he raised "those who would EXECUTE you" IF they lived in old testament times.. you know. The homosexuals.. then the "compromised"..then the "worthless".. then those who happened to be "inconvenient" ..

I had one really weird dream.. everything was in it. Yep.. everything.. my bike I had "chopped" in the sixties.. yeah, we did some silly stuff with bicycles.. and everything else.. all the old electronic junk I'd dragged home from various shops and dumpsters was there.. the two motorcycles I had owned in the past.. and everything else I had come across in this life.. the ex wife.. all the junk she hoarded.. weird, weird, dream.. but I guess it all was "me".. heh..

Some of us water boys are teaching math 105, and desperately trying to follow some professor in Real Analysis, Combinitronics and/or Modern Algebra II.. Don't ask about next semester, if it is to be.. I'll stay as long as they love me. Well, maybe that's asking too much.. as long as they will have me..

Either way.. let me be polite. "Welcome to Greasespot Cafe" I hope your stay is as pleasant as possible..

You did put your opinions out on the world wide web for us rodent types to examine, didn't you? don't underestimate the rodents.. who do you think really runs the world. what you might be experiencing.. isn't analysis.. maybe its "we don't have to put up with your kind of subtle or not so subtle god like arrogance.."

That was my next level of questions..

If you have to solicit donations to give the thing a "kick start".. I'd say it wouldn't exactly be "godly".. Looking at ces, others.. once it's a "business".. it's really done for.. The moment you start charging for paper supplies, ink.. staples, binders.. you're really done.. if you can't afford a couple of bundles of paper, a cheap computer and printer.. maybe you should be able to afford it first..

I dunno.. but I have a few thoughts. 1. Don't charge. Anybody, for anything. No money for classes, books, etc. etc.. ever. 2. I wouldn't pass a plate or horn of plenty under any circumstances.. and if people offered money, I'd suggest giving to the Salvation Army, some kind of world children's fund, or SOMETHING of substantial character and effect.. maybe a denominational mainstream church.. That much would remove about 95 percent of my apprehension regarding anything considered "ex way"..

I dunno.. maybe your "symptom" is mislabelled. Distrust that is. From what I've seen.. generally, it's a conditioned response. Reinforced by *rewards*.. *punishment*.. *they* are *different*.. *they* are not to be *trusted*.. especially with one's spiritual life or something.. *we* have been *conditioned* to recognize surely what happens to one who trusts *them*.. and it's supposedly not *pretty*.. it took me nearly three years to overcome this response that someone who believed in the trinity, or believed the dead to be alive, to be *seriously* compromised, "influenced".. or some such nonsense.

which suggests to me there is a whole heck of lot more "dirt" than one could dream of. The "dirt" that came out with the lawsuits, depositions, etc was bad enough.. That would explain the *extreme* paranoia, at least to me.. perhaps they know far more than we know.. wait till l*nder gets a raw deal, or p*ssed off enough.. or something. Notice I didn't say "grow a conscience" or anything.. that might be asking too much..

Hmmm. Now that makes me wonder.. How much money is funnelled into HQ from the internationals? If they are indeed taking a "share" of what's given.. isn't that kinda like missionary work being practised in reverse?

soo.. why does she have a stffi bumper sticker on the back of a vehicle.. If I didn't want to be involved with the drama, the intrigue.. the strife, the division.. the ungodliness.. personally.. as a "grown adult".. the LAST thing I'd want is.. to have their advertisement on my vehicle..

so.. they "break even".. I dunno. was it "worth it"? I'd ask the participants.. what did you "learn" that was substantially different from what you knew before? Was it.. for 195.00.. you find yourself reaffirming the same old stuff taught long ago in twi? Not that I'm expecting an answer.. but it would be nice.

If you need it in the form of a "personal prophecy".. "thus seth da lord. Get off your lard asses.. go out in you driveways or high valued garages.. pull the damn sticker off your cars.." don't believe me? You're on your own.. blood isn't on MY head.. I've said and all..

I really hope "without natural affection" is not yet another charge to lay at your feet..

Especially.. if they have no clue.. TAKE the DAMN STFFI bumper sticker off your car.. really.. it just happens to be a small world.. there are LOTS of folks who seem to be: Dissatisfied, but civil.. Disappointed in you and your "product".. Deeply offended.. Hostile, through your arrogance.. Hostile, and UNEMPLOYED. Because of your nuttiness.. If I saw a $90,000 vehicle with such a sticker, the way I'd read it: "paid for by STFFI". Not that I would personally care. You only got about $15.00 of my cash, and that's total.. Use some common sense morons.. right now, I wouldn't want my kid in a vehicle with your advertisement on it.. I hope this isn't "too negative" or something..

without commenting on "right" or "wrong".. isn't it at least INTRIGUING.. the the "opportunity" presented itself.. If I were those guys.. I'd tear the friggin bumper stickers off their high valued vehicles.. do you see where this is going? if you INSIST on being that screwed up.. don't advertise it on your kid's car..for crying out loud.. the "opportunity" just might just present itself, in far less than such a harmless scenario..

As long as they let me come with my very ripe tomatos..

That's the whole point isn't it? If he wasn't at least (publicly) a "good guy".. he would not garner much following, would he? it might be an extreme comparison.. but even Capone wouldn't have "made it" to where he was at in the "organization" without befriending at least a few people.. I really think some are making the same mistake they made in the old organization: basing their judgement of character on persona.. the vicster could turn on the charm.. even loy, in rare moments.. some of you guys have been "played"..

:)