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At this time I'm quite the opposite. What I'd like to know is the "original" and how it differs from VPW. For instance, how B.G. Leonard differs from VPW. Because we know VPW got that "stuff" from B.G., but there are differences and I find them interesting.
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Because he only can be present in one place at a time (when he was here physically) but now, ahh, he can potentially be in millions of places at the same time. a.k.a. the great mystery "Christ in You, the Hope of Glory."
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That's the paradox... why God and Jesus protects and saves in some cases, heals in some cases, and in other cases, does not? I think there's so much we don't know but I believe some day we will! I think some of the questions may be answered in Hebrews 11 -- Douay-Rheims Bible, Hebrews Chapter 11 (drbo.org) I noticed too that in Hebrews 11 Christ is referred to as being 'invisible'. Ah ha, we found another synonym for 'absent'.
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Does anyone have an opinion on the Book of Enoch? The most recent film Noah illustrates "The Watchers" or the (Nephilim). Haven't studied it, but here's a page on it: The Prophet Enoch (heartscenter.org)
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Was there ever a lengthy discussion on the canon of scripture? I'd like to review that if someone can link it. Thx.
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I think this is important to understand from the Catholic perspective as well. Practicing Catholics believe Christ is here, physically, in the Holy Eucharist. Only a different physical form, different substance than flesh and blood. It's a mystery to me. I don't understand it, but I accept it as possible. I don't understand the Trinity, but now accept it as possible. It's also interesting to me that folks who are awaiting "Christ's return" don't have to wait any longer; he's back! Of course, from the Catholic perspective.
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I don't know. Their flyers look like they are busy and energetic. About – Christian Training Centre of Texas (ctcoftexas.com)
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Mike I haven't read through PFAL in years, and learned a few things since then. Still cling to some of that "stuff" though that VPW was teaching. Mike, have you reached out to the B.G. Leonard ministries? They are still around; still get flyers from them from time to time. I mention this because, part of the joy we receive is from sincere godly service. Perhaps you may want to check them out. It does appear they teach much of the same good "stuff" that we got in twi, but without the heavy negative baggage.
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Just received a flyer in the mail for this product. I have a similar one at home that I use all the time. The sale looks like a good one. Alexapure Pro Water Filtration System - Camping Survival
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Here's another thought. God is the Word. Jesus is the Word in the flesh. The Bible is the Word in writing. But wasn't VPW really talking about "action" and not mere form or existence? The thing that makes Christianity meaningful is Christ's amazing action on earth, and what we may do to imitate his great works of perseverence and gritty resolve. Hence, a possible definitive thought that agrees with the Book of Acts (action) is this: "The [preached] Word takes the place of the [physically] absent Christ"
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YW Mike. And as VPW "might" say is one of those 'literals according to usage' Now then we are ambassadors for the physically absent Jesus Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in the physically absent Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
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Craig Has His Own Offshoot Going On
oldiesman replied to Stayed Too Long's topic in Out of the Way: The Offshoots
I began listening to Craig's talk on 9-3-22 Discerning of Spirits. It's long-- haven't finished yet. He talks about Jesus learning about the spiritual realm and how devil spirits operate from the wild beasts in the desert during his 40 days/nights of temptations. I don't remember ever hearing anything about this--- does anyone remember this from twi? -
I think the way I understood the 'absent Christ' quip was: Christ is not here physically. I didn't see him physically nor ever saw him physically, has anyone seen physically? I vaguely recall in one of those old threads of Greasespot, that someone posted that twi used to refer to "absent" as "unseen". He hasn't been seen physically, with the eyes, since the first century. Another usage: I believe twi was conveying that you and me (when we are preaching the Word) takes the place of the "unseen" Christ. We are ambassadors for Christ. He cannot be here physically. If he were here physically he wouldn't need an ambassador. At least that's they way I understood it in twi so I didn't have a problem with the statement.
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Thank you Raf.
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I did not. Can you provide a link please? Thx.
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When I read Raf's comment, I didn't think he was mean or arrogant at all but rather loving, explaining that its truly possible to logically, thoroughly and thoughtfully change over time. It is quite intriguing to me and I would love to hear his story and how it all came about!
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Changed positions on doctrine, twi, vpw, and so on.
oldiesman replied to WordWolf's topic in About The Way
Good topic! Perhaps the biggest difference for me is the lack of confidence in "the gathering together" as taught in twi. My involvement with a preterist church on Long Island the last few years got me thinking that Christ came back in 70A.D. already, Nero is 666, and so forth; and when we die, we immediately go to our judgment, then proceed to heaven, hell, or purgatory. (catholic faith). Also, no more "law of believing" the way twi taught it. No more 'fear brings results' like twi taught it, and waiting to be a greasepot. -
Oh thanks Nathan, what I meant was I would like to be notified by an email when someone posts any new topic. (If that is possible.)
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Only ones that I choose to follow but I want to see all new topics everywhere.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. I turned everything on but it doesn't look like there's a selection for "all postings." Oh well...
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After we took PFAL, when we went out witnessing we all were salesmen for twi, that's for certain. In our minds (at least in mine) I didn't make a distinction between twi and the kingdom of God; so thought I was doing God's will. I believe one day we all will find out for certain whether or not that was the case.
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It was a big shock to me too, but then again we now know that's what the corpse can help do to folks. There was another guy from our branch in the Bronx, Ken B. once the branch leader, who died in the corpse getting hit by a bus on one of their programs. But what some folks don't know is, this lovely man was joy personified when he went in, a pleasure to be around at all times; then I saw him about a year later and I couldn't recognize him ... he was visibly too serious, sullen, like all the joy was taken out of him. The change was astonishing. So, when someone has that amount of joy and happiness in the Bronx and lose it in Ohio something's gotta be wrong.
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Thank you.
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I apologize for typing the above name and I tried to remove it but couldn't.
