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Hitler drew much inspiration from Mussolini. His (Hitler's) spin-offs, such as the Neo-Nazis, are still very active, even today. Yeah, but Mussolini didn't get anybody born again. Nor did Wierwille, according to the various scriptures I've perused over the years. his biblical teachings are still thriving. Primarily amongst those who are either unaware of the flagrant inaccuracies or are aware yet, choose to live in denial. Actual Errors in PFAL

These days, when I hear talk about spirits, I find myself reminiscing about the magic routine that Bullwinkle Moose tried, unsuccessfully, to execute in . Bullwinkle, with mystic turban in place, would announce, "Heeny Peeny, Chili Beany, the spirits are about to speak." Rocky's response would be to pose the question....."Are they friendly spirits?"

VPs leadership inspired just too many people from too many different backgrounds to just be a "fraud". ............................................. I suppose one might make the same argument for Benito Mussolini. "In the years following his creation of the Fascist ideology, Mussolini influenced, or achieved admiration from, a wide variety of political figures" SOURCE

Wayfers are like ... They're everywhere, they're everywhere!!(And, they share a similar success rate.)

The first step is to physically remove yourself...stop going to meetings, stop taking classes, stop giving them money, stop using the off-shoots as a surragate while pretending you've removed yourself. The next phase is tougher to define. it's really going to depend on the individual. Remember, part of the indoctrination process (session 7 of PFAL) actually instructs people to actively resist anything that would divert their focus away from Way theology. "what is/are the last steps when you can say I am free..." Based on recent activity I've witnessed from people on FB and other places, I'm not entirely sure anyone who was fully indoctrinated can ever really say "I am free (from The Way)".

The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones. ..........Mark Anthony

Yes, the black cat is considered to be both bad luck and good luck, depending on the location and circumstances. Likewise, this so-called idiom of permission can be see from two (or more) different perspectives as well. Does God cause the evil? Does God simply allow the evil? It all appears to be relative to one's ability to rationalize and justify the illogical.

Something inside is telling me that I've got your secret Are you still listening? Fear is the lock and laughter the key to your heart.

New bumper sticker: See you at The Rock Shock!

When it lacks the ability to reach you on an emotional level, art becomes nothing more than technique.

Supposing the incident really happened....Whatever became of "delivering" people, preaching the gospel, having an enlightening, two way conversation, considering the other person's viewpoint?....Nope, we'll have none of that..... Eve dared to "consider" another viewpoint and look what happened to her.

You are correct!!

What happened to "free will" in all this? (I personally believe the story is fictional).... but here we have an example of Wierwille trying to get someone to conform to his wishes rather than allowing them to practice a lifestyle they probably chose via freewill.....literally *my Way or the highway*.

She probably knew you were going to say that.

This might be a crazy thought but maybe there was already an author using that name. I know it happens with acting. If there is already an actor in the union registered by your name, you have to go with something else. That's what happened to Tim Conway, whose real name is Tom Conway. Just a thought.

Cars and girls are easy come by in this day and age, Laughing, joking, drinking, smoking, Till I've spent my wage.

I have to agree. It's not (usually) his opinions that come under fire, it's his posting tactics. (ie: straw man arguments, red herrings, blatant topic changes and diversions in general.) edit: and now we've spun into a meta-discussion. (a discussion of the discussion, itself)

Marsupials scare me...because they're fast.

"Marian Keech (real name: Dorothy Martin) was the leader of a UFO cult in the 1950s. She claimed to get messages from extraterrestrials, known as The Guardians, through automatic writing. Like the Heaven's Gate folks forty years later, Keech and her followers, known as The Seekers or The Brotherhood of the Seven Rays, were waiting to be picked up by flying saucers. In Keech's prophecy, her group of eleven was to be saved just before the earth was to be destroyed by a massive flood on December 21, 1954. When it became evident that there would be no flood and the Guardians weren't stopping by to pick them up, Keech became elated. She said she'd just received a telepathic message from the Guardians saying that her group of believers had spread so much light with their unflagging faith that God had spared the world from the cataclysm (Levine 2003: 206). More important, the Seekers didn't abandon her. Most became more devoted after the failed prophecy. (Only two left the cult when the world didn't end.) "Most disciples not only stayed but, having made that decision, were now even more convinced than before that Keech had been right all along....Being wrong turned them into true believers (ibid.)." Some people will go to bizarre lengths to avoid inconsistency between their cherished beliefs and the facts." SOURCE

Hahaha! They're suffering from E.D. (ecclesiastical dysfunction)

Well,now, that just stinks.

I find it ironic it's called the "Advanced" Class when, in reality, it's some of the most primitive religious thought one might ever encounter.

Very astute observation. In fact, in the Advanced Class, VP went so far as to tell us we could NOT do what he had done in directing God to break the rules of revelation. That privilege was reserved for him because (Insert implied reference to himself as the MOG here.).

I got nuttin' here. :(