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You know he wasn't a real "Dr.", don't you? ....People just "thought" he was.

I'll go with this one. (And facilitators, such as Rosie, are no less excusable.)

I thought my question was pretty straight forward. The old "answer a question with a question." doesn't fly anymore.

Where did I say this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbh9BBPYoSs

To hear him speak, one would think education is already gone.

es·o·ter·ic    [es-uh-ter-ik] adjective 1. understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite: poetry full of esoteric allusions. 2. belonging to the select few. 3. private; secret; confidential. 4. (of a philosophical doctrine or the like) intended to be revealed only to the initiates of a group: the esoteric doctrines of Pythagoras. ============================================ Whatever happened to "God is no respecter of persons."?

I'd rather be .

Oh, goody! A pin! I could display it in the trophy case where I keep all my various nametags.

My mom? No, not that I know of. I suppose it's possible, though, after I moved away.

I guess I just don't get it. The man did some seriously evil things in his life, damaged marriages, damaged people psychologically, aided and abetted criminal activity and now that he's fallen on hard times, we're supposed to feel sorry for him? Well, call me a 6th grader, then, because I just don't see it.

So, you need to either be a Christian or apply advanced academic techniques, or both, to extract wisdom from Proverbs? (That's the book I used in my example.) Sorry, I just don't see that to be the case.

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There's that esoteric twist. I never said you should read it without an understanding of the nuances or that you should ignore the symbolism of the parables. If the Bible is all that it's touted to be, it should be able to withstand the same sort of scrutiny as a secular work. It should be readable by Christian and Non-Christian alike. A Hindu or Buddhist should be able to read Proverbs and come away with no less enlightenment than a Christian. To think otherwise, borders on elitism.

Sounds like a rationalization to me. If this were a secular work we are discussing, it would be clearly obvious that those two passages contradict each other. The only way to resolve that is to give it an esoteric twist and dismiss the obvious logic. I think that's what we used to call "private interpretation". Ironic, no? Use private interpretation to disparage private interpretation.

All scripture is "God-breathed" (Theopneustos). Paul said so. What do we really know about Paul, aside from what he, himself, declared about himself?

Apollonius of Tyana, a 1st century CE philosopher, is recorded as having said about Aesop: ... like those who dine well off the plainest dishes, he made use of humble incidents to teach great truths, and after serving up a story he adds to it the advice to do a thing or not to do it. Then, too, he was really more attached to truth than the poets are; for the latter do violence to their own stories in order to make them probable; but he by announcing a story which everyone knows not to be true, told the truth by the very fact that he did not claim to be relating real events. (Philostratus, Life of Apollonius of Tyana, Book V:14) There is wisdom in the story of the tortoise and the hare. And, yet, any reasonable person surely realizes that such an actual race never occurred.

Never forget this one, little, simple thing....it's all about the money. When you start to look more like an albatross and less like a cash cow, their interest will fade.

The man has damaged countless lives through the years....... and you wonder why people are having a hard time mustering sympathy? :wacko:

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