waysider

Maybe his loyal followers think he's ....just hoping he'll play them a song to make them all happy.

I think Mr. Natural summed it all up quite nicely.... HERE

No, I don't think so. Here it is in a nutshell...The Gospels, to a large degree, portray Jesus as someone who was willing to serve, sacrifice, give of himself for the betterment of others. I don't think the role of humble servant was one that Wierwille was ever interested in assuming. He taught us "dispensationalism" for the express purpose of steering us away from the Gospels. According to Wierwille, the Gospels were not written to "us". Not only is this concept of dispensationalism theologically incorrect, it's historically incorrect. It ignores the simple fact that the Gospels were actually written AFTER the Epistles.

I'm not sure where it came from but, it was one you picked up on very early....like, "Don't fart in public!"...And, that's the kind of response it got when used incorrectly. There's a bit of humorous irony in remembering how many songs we sang that clearly violated "the rule". Songs like "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Sweetest Name I Know", "Have a Little Talk With Jesus", "Jesus of Blue Galilee", "Yes, It Is Jesus" and lots of others whose titles escape me at the moment. I guess the message here is that there must be some kind of doctrine-correcting "magic" lurking in 3 part harmony and hand clapping.

Well, then, perhaps an adjustment for inflation x 35 years might be in order.

I'm not so sure it's as complicated as you think. They want to share in the laurels of glory and power but shun any identification with service and humility.

I need to find out how much a "bean sprout rinser/mayonnaise maker" can expect to make on an annual basis and back charge them for two years of services rendered. And, as usual, I will expect all accrued interest to be paid in full.

I'm pretty sure any statute of limitations has long expired. One can hope, though, I suppose.

You took my joy and I want it back.

Nate What you may or may not realize is that, in The Way, Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus were talked about as if they were almost two different people. It was actually a point of contention to interchange the two names. The "rule", so to speak, was that pre-crucifiction was always JC and post-resurrection was always CJ.

Oh, yeah.. Ditto...Wasn't that a big hit for Dot and the Dashes?

I remember one time, when I was running a class, we had an unusually deep snowfall.... like 2 feet all at once or something. It was being held, on a Sunday morning, in the house of a believer who lived in one of those kind of neighborhoods where the snowplows don't venture for several days. Three or four of us guys (I think my brother may have been one of them.) arrived several hours early, cleared a single lane down the street and proceeded to hand shovel out enough parking spots for all those involved in the class. Of course, the neighbors were thrilled after we left because we saved them from digging out. Soooo, how much does a professional plow company charge for such services? I'd be willing to accept the going rate for 1974. (plus interest )

I don't think I know this one.

I suppose they could start by refunding the $65 I spent on PLAF (the wonder class), based on the misrepresentations presented on the "green card". Oh, but wait! .."The Way has no members" so, how will they be able to track all this?... Maybe we could take up a love offering to help with the tracking and accounting fees.

Money would be nice but, I'm not sure one can put a dollar value on what they took from us.

Maybe the analogy he was making is that, just like this vine bridge, the roots of his efforts are twisted and inexticable.

Re-examine your PFAL materials, John, especially the session that deals with the second coming. That's the one where VP compares the persecuted Jesus to the resurrected Christ and goes on to say that, when he returns, no one will spit in his face or beat him beyond recognition because, next time, "He's coming back as King of Kings, Lord of Lords. He's coming back as Lord God Almighty." The stark contrast between what Jesus Christ represented and what Christ Jesus represented was a theme that was frequently visited in countless teachings. Although VP didn't use the word "wimpy" specifically, the implication was made.....over and over. Do you not recall that we were never instructed to pattern our lives after the pre-crucifiction Jesus, we were instructed, rather, to pattern our lives after the resurrected Christ? And, don't even think about praying in Jesus' name, lest you be suspected of conferring with a devil spirit.

Thanks, Roy Music has a way of reaching that which lives deep inside us, doesn't it? It's like a way to speak the unspoken.

Rocket Man FREE POST!!!

Just take those old records off the shelf.

Exactly, Twinky. There's nothing wrong with the video, itself, or the amazing foresight and diligence this sort of effort takes. But, as usual, in TWI inspired fashion, we see a loose comparison that lacks congruity. Yes, these people are building something. John is, likewise, building "something". That's about as far as the comparison goes. He might just as well have compared himself to someone building a latrine.

Legend of a Mind

It looks like TWI is already occupied. HERE