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You came to me one summer night, and from your beam you made my dream,

I programmed my GPS for Hell and it sent me to Highway 29 and Wierwille Rd.

Maybe a family of irate, fledgling Robins plucked out his whiskers.

Most of all, what bugs me about that part of the weekend is not so much how I, personally, was shredded, but, how I had to sit there and watch the people I cared about being shredded. I'll tell you, I wanted to get out of my chair, walk out the door and keep on going. But, it was like I was glued to the chair or something. None of the FLO knew where the whole thing was going or if it was really right or wrong at the moment it was happening. (Retrospect is a byotch, ya know?) Plus, where was I gonna go? Out there in the middle of Podunk, U.S.A., a car with "Maypop" tires, 1/2 tank of gas and about a buck and a quarter to my name. Couldn't really go back home. It's a real feeling of helplessness. So, what were the options, besides trying to ride it out? And here's the thing. This was all BEFORE Momentus. So, it's not like nobody knew how volatile this sort of thing could be. They went into Momentus, KNOWING what this kind of thing could produce. I can't understand that.

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Steve said: The things Tocchini subjected us to were not mistakes, as some claim. They were carefully orchestrated, even though we participants were led to believe that it was all spontaneous. Just for starters, the trainers get together before the training begins and review the information about the people who have signed up, to figure out who is most likely to express vocal resistance to the training techniques. Then, when the training begins, and that person starts to raise objections, the trainers browbeat and harass and humiliate and bullyrag that person without mercy, until he's psychologically beaten into submission. This is all a show, to intimidate everyone else, so that nobody dares raise a voice against the training practices. The exercises were deliberately designed to confuse you. The whole experience was deliberately designed to wipe you out. BINGO!! (With us FLO, though, attendance was not voluntary and quitting the sessions was not an option.)

Michael I have never been through Momentus. As far as I can gather, though, it had to be similar to that INSANE weekend in FellowLaborers where we were "confined" to the BRC for most of the weekend, psychologically battered and verbally ripped to shreds in front of the whole group. One of the women literally snapped (mentally) and experienced a complete, seemingly permanent personality/identity change. Scary stuff. Maybe you weren't there. I don't know. Sometimes I forget that I was there an extra year and some of this stuff may have happened during that year. That year was very strange, to say the least. Having already graduated from the program, it was like I was looking though some kind of window, observing the "goings on" but not being a part of it. Like the invisible man or something. It was like watching a puppet show from behind the stage. That's the only way I can describe it at this moment.

I don't think it's a cognizant skill that one hones and perfects. I think it's more of an instinctive kind of thing that some people have and some people don't. Wierwille had it.

OK Male/61/A.A.S./Stopped smoking after PFAL in 1972...tried once again in 1981...just not my bag.

"I still respect him as father in the word" 1.) He wasn't your father. 2.) It wasn't "the Word".

I think your math guru might need to brush up on ornithology. The mother bird will continue to take care of the fledgelings for quite some time but will try to stay hidden so as not to attract predators.

Yeah, I see your point. Godel, on the other hand....Well, who really knows?

He suffers from a severe case of alopecia barbae. OR He doesn't suffer from a severe case of alopecia barbae.

Don't recognize it.

First cup is on the house.

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Time to put this one to bed. It's Apple, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie----Jay and the Techniques FREE POST!!

Amen, Brudder Squirrel!

Gullible?... Maybe Idealistic?...Absolutely! We were the generation that was going to change the world, make it a better place, be a part of something bigger than ourselves. TWI seemed like it was offering a chance to do those things. And, don't forget, some of our decisions weren't all bad, in and of themselves, but, they were based on misleading, deceptive information. Take the WOW program, for example. "Grow ten years in one", "Gain a greater, in-depth spiritual perception.", blah, blah, blah, blah. For cryin' out loud. There was nothing spiritual about it. It was simply an unpaid sales/recruiting campaign for the PFAL class. Sure, some people experienced personal growth. That's what adversity does to us. It makes us wiser. That's not entirely a bad thing. And, sure, some people had fun in the process. Again, not entirely a bad thing. But, to go on thinking we were part of some noble effort that changed the world in some significant way is denial. It's ludicrous, plain and simple.

I'll find you anywhere you go, I'm gonna look high and low. You can't escape this love of mine anytime. Well, I'll sneak up behind you, Be careful where I find you. Ready or not here I come, Gee that used to be such fun

John, you seem to have a keen dislike for anything that might expose what really went on in The Way. Yet, you continue to come here, knowing that exposing TWI's dirty secrets is part of the site's objective. Do you have any thoughts on why that might be?

Ooooh! So close!

Ready or not, here I come. Gee, that used to be such fun.

We know from the O.T. that people climbed trees. So, according to Wierwille's definition, Jesus is not the only one to have gone into or come down from Heaven. I'm thinking his definition may have some obvious flaws.