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Everybody's high on consolation Everybody's trying to tell me what's right for me My daddy tried to bore me with a sermon but it's plain to see that they can't comfort me

We have a couple of vegetarians with us this year so I made a big dish of sliced polenta with a pesto, walnut, and red pepper topping. The rest of the meal is quite traditional. By "traditional", I mean that I wasn't involved in cooking it .

Reminds me of the time my Dad cooked a big turkey in a covered, waterless roaster. Mid-way through the morning, people started commenting about how good it was going to be to finally have some crispy turkey skin. OOPS! the skin doesn't get crispy in a covered roaster. Never fear. My Dad, brother-in-law and I, who had started "celebrating" the holiday quite early, somehow stumbled upon the idea of sneaking into another room and applying our skills with a propane torch. The crispy skin was a big hit. edit: We captured it on video and still have a laugh or two watching it.

Hey! We left out J.R. Ewing. Granted, he wasn't an author (or real), but the similarities are uncanny.

She Blinded Me With Science-----Thomas Dolby

I'm thinking there were sprinklings of H.R. Pufnstuf, as well. Always obsessed with good vs. evil. Know what I mean?

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Yes, indeed. "More than we can ask or think." How DOES one squeeze "the law of believing" into that verse?

5.God's ability equals His willingness. Oooookay...but why do we have to know this? Because if you get a flat tire and God has a jack, He'll play hide-and-seek with you unless you call his bluff.

Excellent points, Oak. Here's more Silly stuff: Page 3/PFAL Silly-bus FEAR IS BELIEVING What you fear, you will receive--it's a law. Fear is believing in reverse. Page 4/PFAL Silly-bus Fear and faith both operate by believing. Both work with a mathematical exactness and scientific precision. edit: And this is from a guy who scoffed at science and called it imprecise.

Nah. We were spectators. It was an outdoor blues festival. The headliner was .

Well, maybe somebody should have told Wierwille that. According to PFAL, all 5 cylinders have to be firing in perfect sequence or the dad-gum motor's gonna stall and leave you stranded by the side of the road. I just don't see how you can call "believing" a law that operates with the same precision as gravity. If you drop a PFAL book off of a tall building, it falls. It doesn't care if the building is brick or wood or has green shutters or even red drapes, it just falls----- flat.

Hmmmmmm---Wienie roast. Never been to one, though I did meet up with ChattyKathy and her hubby for a day of blues music and pulled pork sandwiches a couple years ago. Don't know if that counts but it sure was a lot of fun.

You may be gettin' old But you've still got .

I think it means different things to different people. I wasn't looking for healing when I came here. Darned if I didn't find some anyhow.

I guess you have to stop and figure out what "healing" means. When I first came here, I had a lot of guilt. I felt like I was tripped out and failed God by leaving the household and all that kind of horse pucky. I don't feel that way anymore. Is that "healing"? I dunno. I think maybe it is in a sense, though.

Gee, I just stumbled in the door when I was looking for a replacement for my PFAL book. (Ummmmmmm-----I'm not looking for one anymore.)

Now consider this. Wierwille said that to receive ANYTHING from God we must know: 1.What is available. 2.How to receive 3.What to do with it after we have it. 4.Need and Want must be parallel. 5.God's ability equals His willingness. He went on to say that if we miss ANY ONE of these 5 points, we won't receive from God. (I posted this particular reference a few months ago.) So doesn't this make you wonder? Hows come you have to do all this stuff to receive something good when, in order to receive something bad, you simply have to fear it. (Remember---VPW said they are both "believing" and that "believing= receiving".)

And yet Wierwille asserted that it was fear in the heart of the mother that caused the little boy's death. Here's what VPW says on page 37 & 38 of Power For Abundant Living. Believing: Faith and Fear There are two types of believing: (1) positive and (2) negative. We either have faith or fear. We must recognize that believing has both a negative and positive side. We are what we are today because of our believing. We will be tomorrow where our believing takes us. No one ever rises beyond what he believes and no one can believe more than what he understands. We believe what we believe because of what we have been taught. We think the way we think because of the way we have been led. Believing is a law. As one believes, he receives. On the negative side, fear is believing in reverse; it produces ill results. There is basically only one thing that ever defeats the believer, and that is fear. Fear is the believer's only enemy. *Fear is sand in the machinery of life.* When we have fear, we cannot believe God and have faith. Fear has ruined more Christian lives than any other thing in the world. If a person is afraid of not being able to hold a job, do you know what will happen? He will lose it. If one is afraid of a disease, he will manifest that disease because the law is that what one believes (in this case, what one believes negatively.), he is going to receive. People have fear of the future; they have a fear of death. Fear always encases, fear always enslaves, fear always binds. This law of negative and positive believing works for both Christian and non-Christian. When we believe, we receive the results of our believing of regardless of who or what we are. (*Fear is sand in the machinery of life*--------E.S. Jones) ************************************************************** "In the case of the little boy, the only way her fear could have caused the boy to get hit, is that she spent so much time with the boy because she was afraid he would get hit that she failed to teach the boy the proper way to cross the street. Instead she met him, did the looking and decision making for him, so he really didn't know what he was looking for when it was time to cross the street on his own." Not only is that pure conjecture, it contradicts the section of PFAL that I posted.

So, then, how does this make any sense when applied to "negative" believing? According to the story in PFAL, the little boy died because of the fear (negative believing) in the heart of the mother. What promise is involved in this example?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._W._Bullinger

And you read your Emily Dickinson, And I my Robert Frost, And we note our place with bookmarkers That measure what we've lost. Like a poem poorly written We are verses out of rhythm, Couplets out of rhyme, In syncopated time Lost in the dangling conversation And the superficial sighs, Are the borders of our lives. ----Simon and Garfunkle

It's funny. When I think of Wierwille trying to use Bullinger's material, it reminds me of a kid in 4th grade trying to retell an off-color joke he overheard his parents share at a cocktail party. He doesn't grasp the key elements that give it some semblance of coherency.

I'll just hit on a couple points of interest. It was from Bullinger that Wierwille got his concept of "administrations". In a nut shell, Wierwille promoted the Bullinger concept that, if it was not part of this administration, it didn't really apply to us. For example, Wierwillee said The Ten Commandments didn't apply to us directly because they were given to another "administration". (Bullinger used the term "dispensation" to mean the same thing.) This is the thinking VPW used to rationalize and excuse his sexual predation, chronic drunkenness, psychological abuse and misappropriation of ministry funds. Another doctrine VPW took from Bullinger was the concept of "soul sleep". According to this doctrine, the dead are in a sort of suspended animation, devoid of consciousness, until the second coming of Christ. Wierwille "borrowed" heavily from the work in THIS link. I believe he also got the idea for the "four crucified with Christ" teaching from Bullinger, as well. (This particular idea, incidently, has been shown to be academically incorrect.) Then, in order to obviate skeptics, he made it appear that he and Bullinger had arrived at the same conclusion, totally independent of each other. (Bullinger, by the way, died in 1913, long before Wierwille ever taught "4 crucified".) Wierwille "borrowed" a good many of Bullinger's ideas without fully comprehending them. The list goes on and on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._W._Bullinger