waysider

Maybe it's just me. I have a hard time jumping on the bandwagon for a God who would put people to death for minor crimes.

On the other hand, sometimes I feel like I can express myself more accurately without all the confusing body language and peripheral distractions.

You reported the news in good faith that the source was reliable. Is that such a bad thing?

NURTURING CREATIVITY

We (FLO) didn't have any formalized curriculum even though we were supposed to be doing an intense two year study of The Book of Acts.Wednesday nights the limb leader would teach on whatever hit his fancy. Usually that meant we would get our arses chewed out for not believing big enough. Whatever. Morning fellowship was all 50 of us. It consisted of prayers, mannies and announcements. Then the run to the tree and back. Then, at night twigs, the teachings were all based on the collaterals, for the most part. If you hadn't taken a particular class, such as Witnessing or Renewed Mind, you could take it in a local class being held and thus avoid work detail. Sometimes we ran such classes in-house, as well. If you had been an instructor before coming into the program, you got to run classes in-house or in local areas. Oh,joy! Academically speaking, it was a thoroughly (or is that throughly?) disappointing experience. I can, however, quite readily distinguish the difference between a rutabaga and a radish as a result of having devoted two years of my life to the program. (My third year was, how shall I say it?----less devoted.)

We had no say in the matter. Those items were directives that came with the program as a "package deal".

Lots of solid information in there. In my opinion, she is absolutely correct in stating that the lifestyle is primary and the specific "doctrines", such as 4 crucified, the 6 denials, etc., are peripheral. When she talked about sleep deprivation, dietary modifications, isolationism, social restrictions and communal lifestyle in general , she was accurately describing my experience in Fellow Laborers. I suppose someone else may view their involvement in a different light but that's my take on it.

Soooooo---------Where is it now? (and all the other ones?)

I'm inclined to go with the "flawed product" explanation. I mean you have all this detailed stuff on discerning of spirits in the Advanced Class and yet nobody seemed to notice that Wierwille was a walking/talking, text book example of the very things he taught were devil possession. (ie: chronic alcoholism, sexual predator, psychological abuser, chronic liar, etc.) Doesn't look too good for proving DOS is a valid concept.

VP didn't simply have A motorcycle. He had several. Some were mucho expensive. Paid for with ill gotten funds from his MLM scheme called "The Way". So what I'm wondering is----Do they still have them secretly stashed away like the used to?--- Did they sell them?----If they sold them, what became of the profits?

I threw a few bucks in on one that looked like this. (Or at least it was supposed to once it was restored.)

What ever happened to The Twig Hopper? (Or any of the other motorcycles and classic cars)

And to add insult to injury, the premise of the whole class was based on a misrepresentation of the meaning of John 10:10.

Wow! Resumes for that position should be arriving at the speed of light!

Cuba Gooding----------Sr. Everybody Plays The Fool

"He's been up for a week but he's coming down fast!"

Didn't we learn that technique in "Twig Leader Training" or one of those other so-called classes? 1. Tell them what you're going to tell them. 2. Tell them. 3. Tell them what you told them. (Should I repeat that?) :P

Can you imagine your reaction at your first twig meeting if you had been told this would be expected of you?

It was all a dog and pony show-------and we weren't the exhibitors.

Hey! If you have any of those DVD's, I'd be glad to burn them for you.

You guys are off the mark. Ya see-----It's spiritual. Natural man, as well as Mr. Natural, is completely devoid of the ability to recognize the "enormity" of the implied idiomatic analogy of the original transfiguration of the genuine figure of speech, baggie-syndoton. What we need to do is plant a garden, live as one in a giant pup tent and meditate without ceasing on the meaning of wheat-berry pop tarts.

I find I must disagree with this statement.

Well I guess the seller never read the material dealing with "private interpretation". (Seems like he was privately interpreting VPW's topic headings.)

I think it helped me more to first see VP's phony lifestyle exposed. Once I accepted that for what it was, his credibility was worthless to me. With his credibility in tatters, it was easy to start examining the various doctrinal matters in a more open manner.

We didn't have T.V.'s in Fellow Laborers. On Monday mornings, I would go to my secular job and all the people would be buzzing about a new show called Saturday Night Live. Do you know how embarrassing it was to try to explain why we didn't have T.V's.? The abundant life my arse!