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Should I put an end to this one and offer a free post?

Are you on well water there? Those willows will seek out groundwater and draw down the immediate area of the aquafer. That might have a direct effect on the functionality of your well and related equipment. Cottonwoods and alfalfa grass will do the same. Alfalfa will send roots down 100's of feet in search of water. That's good news if you are trying to dry out a wet area and bad news if you are not.

Maybe it's not truly "circular" Perhaps it's really more of a "parabolic trajectory" that eventually reaches "escape velocity". Parabolic trajectory

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The Way really has no genuine answers to life's perplexing questions. It was all just a multi-level marketing scheme, devised to sate the desires of its demented founder. "Stuff" happens because that's how life is. This discussion reminds me of the words to a song by the late Paul deLay---"Life is just a mystery, and nothing ever goes like you planned."

I'll tell the world you belong to me, I'll tell the world, you're the soul of me, I'll tell the world you're a part of me.

I guess everybody is different. Here I am, almost 20 years after leaving and I am just now starting to really feel like I am over it. I carried a lot of guilt for a lot of years over my decision to leave because I didn't know what had really happened. I don't think I really "left" until I came here and got my eyes opened. So, yeah, I think "rewiring" is a valid analogy in my case.

I also looked at the Susan Blackmore presentation. It gives additional credence to the rewiring theory.

This thread is starting to remind me of "The Splendid Table". It's not a show for people who love to cook, it's a show for people who love to eat. HERE

It reminds me of myself, recalling my life as a Fellow Laborer.

In you I have what other men long for. All men need someone to worship and adore, That's why I treasure you and place you high above, For the only joy in life is to be loved.

I never had any warnings. The only people who knew anything about TWI were the twig-goers. So all I heard were good things.

Tell it again 'Til someone hears it Tell it---again Come on!---Sing with me!!

I was never in "your rotten army". I guess as a FLO, I was kinda like a reservist. LOL When VPW saw that our franchise operation was draining revenue from his company store operation, he wasted no time in distancing himself from our operation (IMO)

Pond You can't beat yourself up because you allowed yourself to be talked out of what you knew was right. That sort of thing was standard M.O. for anything that might "bring blame to the ministry". If it's any consolation, I, too, experienced something quite similar in the very early days of my Way involvement and yet I stuck around for years afterward.

Hey! Wasn't that a big hit for Johnny Inter-Nash-onal?

I guess my point was that, it parallels the rationalization that lying is "ok" at times. Except that in this instance, suicide (which, in the Advanced Class, was expressly taught to be caused by a devil spirit) was not only "ok" but sanctioned by God. Come to think of it, one of the other spirits listed in the AC was a "lying spirit". (pages 20 & 21, for those who really need to know.)

Actually, the TWI version was "Dick and Jane BELIEVE For The Potty To Flush Itself"

Yeah, maybe that's where I heard it first. It all kinda blends together after a while. But, then it was also taught on a FLO night by Howie Y in 1975 or 1976.

"Bible quote goes here."

I think (only my opinion) that the oral styles that proliferated had a greater impact than the written. Everybody wanted to sound like a clone of VPW or Donnie F. Even a recently posted thread, regarding prayer, seems to fit this homiletic mold.

I heard a similar teaching in FLO,(ie:justification for a seemingly unBiblical practice) regarding an incident that is not found in The Bible. It involves a mass suicide, in the era of the OT, to prevent capture. Anyone recall this one? MASADA

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