waysider

Maybe the contents changed over time but when I took it in the mid 1970s, much of the material was legally inappropriate for 13 year old kids. Some of us objected. Wierwille said, "What better place to learn it than with "The Family"? Yeah, that's like saying your kid's gonna try drinking some day so why not just buy him/her a bottle of Turkey and get smashed together?

Nah, we just lived in a commune like a bunch of celibate, non-toking hippies.

My dog's bigger than your dog. My dog's bigger than yours. Come on everybody-----Sing with me! Seriously though, it sounds like us, 40 years ago, comparing The Way to organized religion. Sad

What is it you think we don't "get"? That there's some sort of profound, cryptic message hidden in the pages of PFAL? Maybe we don't "get it" because there is no secret message. The man was just another low caliber confidence artist who lived a life of ease on my dollar and yours. Did you ever see some of his toys? A fleet of classic cars and vintage motorcycles paid for by the suckers he fleeced. He kept them conveniently tucked away, out of view from the rank and file. Maybe that's the secret you're looking for.

Hmmmmm-----Sounds like a Zydeco tune to me.

You may have stumbled into a hornets' nest, cheranne

And there was Fellow Laborers. Not only were we supposed to be doing an in-depth study of Acts, we were supposedly living a lifestyle that was PATTERNED after Acts! What a disappointment. :(

I remember children Feeding flocks of pigeons I remember sunshine And you were mine

He did much more than just meet with them. He commandeered the movement from Heefner and Doop.

Don't be so hard on yourself, George. This is an easy one.

Anyone here ever participate in a CF&S class where minors were present? Wierwille assured us it was all O.k. because we were "family."

I'm so sorry, potato. Court or no court, What these guys did was inexcusable.

"How can people be so heartless?"

"God won't spit in your direction unless----" "You'll be a grease spot by midnight if you ever -------" Nope. No extortion there.

Well, now. Are we sure they're false claims? Are you assuming the person is guilty of making false claims? Shouldn't we presume they are innocent of your charges? Sounds to me like a rush to judgment.

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to mention PASMOS. My bad.

Does this innocence thing hold up in Mexico? How about Brazil? Australia? New Zealand? Canada? The U.K.? This isn't a U.S. court, it's the "World Wide Web". Get it? World wide. Opinions from around the globe.

"Internet court of guilt" HaHaHaHaHa! I'll have to google that one and see what comes up. HaHaHaHaHa!

Why not just say you worshiped the sorry S.O.B. I don't think anyone would press you to "prove" it.

Now that Valentine's Day is past, perhaps some will be singing THIS.

I'm wondering where Don got the tan. Must be from working the fields at The Kipp Farm.

-----Joni Mitchell

QUOTE (waysider @ Feb 6 2009, 08:45 AM) * Wierwille wasn't fundamentally all that different from the fraudulent psychic mediums and mentalists of his day. Except, instead of claiming to be channeling the spirit of dearly departed Aunt Mildred, he claimed to be channeling the spirit of God Almighty, himself. God, after all, tends to lend a bit more credibility than dear Aunt Mildred. Frame57 replied: Serious? He never ever ever claimed that. That is a fabrication. In fact his view of the holy spirit was quite the opposite of how most Pentecostals view it as channeling. He argued against the mainstream because no body gets possessed by the holy spirit. He side with leonard in that the manifestations of holy spirit are "God given abilities.." Plain and simple. Dude! Where do get this stuff or do just make it up? ************** The Way---Living in Love page 178 "I was praying. And I told Father outright that He could have the whole thing, unless there were genuine answers that I would never have to back up on. "And that's when He spoke to me audibly, just like I'm talking to you now. He said He would teach me the Word as it had not been known since the first century if I would teach it to others. "Well, I nearly flew off my chair. I couldn't believe that God would talk to me." He shakes his head slowly smilng. "It's just too fantastic. People won't believe it. But He spoke to me just as plainly as I'm talking now to you." ************************ You introduced the "possessed" element. It was not in my original quote. (I didn't compare him to The Pentecostals, either.)

What was Jesus Christ's "only rule for faith and practice" ? This ought to be easy------just give a scripture reference and be done with it.