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Seth, now that you mention it, I DO remember! (witnessing 2 by two) It even got to the point if anyone in my area had the chance to witness on their own, God wouldn't honor it.........Geez, what about Phillip? He witnessed on his own! "schedules" This thing really got on my nerves! You were supposed to keep an "up to minute" schedule, and if anything did come up not on your schedule, well you didn't do it! I might have done that for a week, but that was it! The corps had it even worse. Didn't they have to turn theirs in? At least, that's what I seem to remember. S.V. this is close to yours. "spiritually clean" The leadership used this alot. Well, you know what? I think it was the other way around! If anyone was unclean, it was them! (and their condescending attitudes) I wish I knew had to use that "puke" icon!

I was just wondering if anyone was interested in driving down. We could share expenses, but I would have to fly back. I have to be at work Sunday evening. I have Friday off that week, so I could leave early. According to mapquest, it's 1050 miles from Cincinnati, and roughly about 16-17 hours (based upon 65 mph) one way. Is anyone thinking along those lines? If you are, let me know.

I may be wrong (I haven't read any collaterals lately) but I seem to remember the reasoning behind why twi wouldn't endorse bake-sales and car-washes. Not to say I agree with it. I don't see anything wrong with what your area was trying to do. In VP's book, "Christians should be Prosperous", and I'm not going to quote it, but he made mention churches shouldn't have to have bake-sales and car-washes if the tithe is being operated.

Hi Pink Lady, Nice to meet you. It sounds like you've been through a tough time.(understated I'm sure!) I'm sorry for your pain. I can understand how you feel your husband alienated you. I went through a similar ( I know it's not identical with yours) situation with my ex. He beat me with a loaded pistol because I wanted out of a 15 year marraige that wasn't working. His kids and our kids were more important than the marraige, and that's just for starters. There were other kinds of abuse. It's a long story, but everything considered, I realized my life was worth more than that. Your experience with this other group has only compounded things.....and made it very difficult to deal with.....Here's a big hug! Your life is worth more, too. Respect is something we as humans need in order to feel loved. Once he left, and I had my life back, things started to change....for the better. Things will get better for you. You're not THE reason why this is all happening to you. Understood, you're dealing with alot right now, alot of loss, shock, hurt. It takes time to sort through all of that.... But, remember, you are worthy of respect. If they don't give it to you, then there's something wrong with them.

"travel by two" this came about during the Y2K, I think. anytime you needed to go anywhere, do anything, you were supposed to travel with at least one other person. This became such a hindrance and snare, and I felt guilty if I "broke" the rule.

How about "first thought" -regardless if it's "right" or not! this term was used alot ! This was used after the first Advanced Class was taught by Dr. Wierwille and was the "usual saying" especially in my Wow Home. After Craig and all his "malarky", he later taught "first thought" is usually NOT! Guess it didn't line up with James 4:17! :blink:

Happy Birthday today, Shell!

Should I bring my keyboard? Hmmm, I wonder if I can bring it on the plane?

Hey Dooj and Exie, Count me in! I'll try to work out my flight arrangments around Temple Lady! What do you want me to bring? Thanks

Would that account for his longevity? :)

My "face melting" session was in front of the Limb Coordinators and their assistant fellowship coordinators after they supposedly confronted me the first time. ( This "first time" eveyone in our branch was confronted in a "special meeting", but no names were mentioned.) I highly question this. If they're not going to directly confront an individual one on one, what makes them think they can proceed to the next step? After all, who were they talking to? During this "face melting", the Limb Coordinator's wife told me she had me figured out the very first time she met me, "within minutes". She's the same person who asked me that very day we met if another believer in my fellowship was a lesbian! They went on to accuse me of many more things.....they humiliated me, degraded me, and verbally assaulted me with little or no foundation for what they did. The presumptuousness was so startling, all I could do was sit and wonder if it was really happening. These other people that were in the room were my friends. It was so embarassing! Of course, they weren't saying anything! I don't think they could believe it either. She "bragged" during this confrontation they were often sent to areas that needed cleaning up. It was so hurtful that I couldn't face her again. It felt like someone took a 9" dagger and stabbed me in the heart with no mercy. She's been known for a fiery temper, as she's done her "deed" with others, too. Often, in front of onlookers. She would make slanderous remarks even in teachings about other leadership. (some were still with twi and some weren't, and let's not forget talking about believers who just recently left) This was during teachings! She seemed to take the lead when it came to her husband. He just went along with her. We moved to Cincinnati, and got back involved with twi, only to find it wasn't much different here either. I was spared the harshness, though. My ex and I divorced in 2003. I just don't know how twi would allow someone like that to be "leadership", all the while hurting believers. (which is what she accused me of) TWI received at least one letter from another believer informing them of what this couple had done to him on a previous assignment. She even told me that! So it wasn't like they didn't know..... It's been hard for me to write about it. It's been 8 years, and it still hurts. I feel better about myself now, and I've come to the realization she didn't know what she was talking about..... I wonder how she'd respond if someone did that to her? Maybe someone did, and that's why she does what she does........

Yes, I agree. It is amazing! :)

Victory is never trivial, RR! Victory causes joy in yourself and others around you! I'm happy for you, Rummy

It's horrible! I can't imagine how ANYONE could harm young children...It's so hurtful and disgusting. I agree, SV, the death penalty would save many broken hearts....especially if they have no remorse. Forgiveness, honestly Jonny, if it were one of my children, I don't think I could. I think you have a good point. Bitterness is an entrapment I don't like either. Bitterness poisons from the inside out, and keeps its prisoner in a hopeless dungeon instead of needed light to sort through things. I think understanding is a great key to forgiveness. If you can understand why someone does something, at least you can empathize. I'll admit I may have some growing to do, but I don't think I could understand the insanity of such an act. And yes, our experiences with twi pale in comparison to this even if we have been hurt. It's the same adversary, just a different day. I

Geez! What a Teaser!

Wonderful!?!?!?!?! :blink: I think most of the time, they didn't even mean it! Probably just a cover-up for how miserable they are! (You know, you never talked about what it was that was ailing you!) HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE!

Sudo! I laughed and laughed and laughed :lol:

This week has been great! I've managed with the help of GSC to get in contact with some people I knew from way back. They're great people! These people made me laugh, almost hysterically at times.... It has brought back fond memories, and talking with them briefly has given me an invigorated sense of renewal. Many miles have passed, as one of them said; and what we have today, is what we have. This person was very special to me. He was always a strong leader, and I had a huge amount of respect for him. My thoughts go back to another corps couple that were in my area within the last six years of twi. They had served on staff for many, many years... He and his wife were/are such great people. They were kind, very loving, understanding, and had so much compassion. THEIR confrontations were not anything like the typical abuse seen on a regular basis from other twi leaders. (Even though they endured the abuse.) They were honest in what they said, and had genuine concern for people. They were very much loved by all who knew them.....Well mostly all...there were those who didn't like being confronted...the Board of Directors.....Enough said. I'm just thankful that I know these wonderful people who have caused great joy in my life. They taught me so much! And so on we go, and we can do that for others too.........causing great joy!

Bagpipes, Yes I've been one of the victims mentioned in your post. That is EXACTLY how I felt! Thanks for sharing. Your perspective is highly enlightening!

Twinky, when you combine this post and Bagpipes account of the terror twi inflicted it becomes eerily too familiar to me.........

Rummy, that is awesome! It's time for celebration! Do you know the other co-recipient?

Happy Birthday, Cool Chef! Enjoy your day!

Yes, Raf, you guys down there have been taking a beating. It would be great for everything to settle down and give everyone a break!

I paid $2.04 per gallon today in Cincinnati! Woo!Hoo!!!!