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thanks much. TL for this info.........ex10 and hotsax have been on my mind throughout ike's miserable existence........i lost the phone with their number, so i've been hoping to see something from/about them here at the spot!.........sadly, the news isn't all that terrific......but, most importantly all are healthy, uninjured, and together.......... prayin' for all you greasespotters who were affected by ike..........let us know how you all is when you can...............thanks again templelady..................peace.

here's that angel again!.................... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOpY0wQdJ5w...feature=related#

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tf7A13_Ex8&feature=user#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcsBVtbZ2ww...feature=related#

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interesting progression in the musical tastes, and public expectations of female musical performers.........about 60 years between that first andrews sisters clip and this one........imo, neither is necessarily "better" than the other........just different..........all the ladies have talent............they just showcase it differently, imo.........and, this live performance rocked the house that night!.............. #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wiVkdVPGoY# # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_7srmo5cE...feature=related#

another roy orbison composition sung by a different petite lady with a big voice! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo...feature=related# prayin' for those bayous and coastal islands along the louisiana and texas coasts today, as ike does his nasty on them.......................peace.

absolute torch and twang!!!............ #

talk about throwin' your whole self into a song!..........watch this one.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5WJYYrFAY...feature=related# and these............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLjvb4mcXbc...feature=related#

the first time i heard this lady sing, it was this song off her album, "absolute torch and twang"..........her voice hit me so hard, that i left work and went right out to buy this album!........i've seen her live twice and her voice always wows me!.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqZrP_PqtYY#

hi greasespotters! You've got to wonder how many of the splinter/leaders feel they could've held TWI together if it had been them and not LCM at the helm? my opinion?..........every single one of them!..........starting with geer's self-styled "putsch" in classsic nazi style, every one of the offshoots exist because, in the self-inflated opinion of their "leaders", they believe they've each got the "right way" of saving the "greatness of the word" vic revealed "as it hasn't been known since the first century" in all it's pureness!......and, in addition, without ever publicly admitting to their personal, tacit approval and acceptance of the fact that vic was a mean-spirited, sociopathic, incestuous, serial sexual predator and alcoholic, they now proclaim, that because of their own personal "integrity", and with the help of vic's god, they are now somehow able to continue "speaking the truth in love", without the interference of vic's well-known and documented personal psychopathologies and profoundly sick personal perversions! liars and hypocrites every one, imho!...........each owing their "ministries" to vic and twi, while publicly denying or ignoring the facts of vic and twi's shameful history of sexual and "spiritual" abuse of literally hundreds of innocent "believers"!.........yet shamelessly securing the loyalty and money of ex-wayfers still stuck in the manufactured "need" for the "rightly divided word of god" vic narcissistically and falsely claimed originated with his "god-ordained ministry"........imo, an utterly contemptible, self-serving, and hypocritcal phoney version of "christianity", void of any genuine presence of christ and/or his heavenly father!..........theologies and belief systems firmly and completely rooted in the plagiarism, lies, and elementary school intellectualism of vic's "biblical research ministry"! they never had the honesty or humility to obtain legitimate, accredited, theolgical and ministerial training, foolishly accepting their way corps "training and education" as somehow being superior to, or at least equal to the legitimate training available from denominational or independently, fully accredited seminaries!.......and manufacturing all sorts of excuses and rationalizations for not taking the time, spending the money, or putting in the effort to obtain legitimate, accredited, ministerial education and training which would provide effective and legitimate christian service and ministry to and for those followers looking to them for the same! this, despite the fact that every one of them has either participated in the spiritual abuse of twi followers, as well as their own sexual dalliances with followers, or the experience, in some cases, of having their own children serially sexually abused by vic, king okie, or other twi "leaders" and never having the courage to admit it or confront it while they continued to live off of twi's financial storehouse!..........while at the same time, covertly soliciting the allegiance and financial loyalty of twi followers who themselves were the objects of viscious persecution and abuse by twi while those selfsame "leaders" functioned in "leadership positions" for twi under the brutal reign of the doofus from okie himself, or the smarmy, lying, cover-up version of twi that rosie now oversees! ye hypocrites!......liars, and whited sepulchres of arrogant, self-righteous, self-important, and christ-denying false christian religion............man-made, broken cisterns of empty, ineffectual, psychoemotionally bigotted, self-serving, corrupt, ideologies of hatred and intolerance, imo!................in effect, denying the omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence of "the one true god" they proclaim to love and serve!.................grossly inexcusable, dishonest and manipulative manufactured religions of abuse and denial of reality!............god will judge, and they, just like nebuchadnezzar, will be weighed in the balance and found sorely wanting!............................to my fellow greasespotters.....................peace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qgV91ookQk...feature=related#

this one's for you waysider!...............remember "juke"??............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwfrj9aMNA...feature=related#

can't find taj's version of this old blues standard........which, imo, is the best, and definitely the one that forever popularized the tune..........this version, of all the ones i saw, comes closest to taj's original vocal version, and the backup band includes booker t and the mg's, matt "guitar" murphy, and the famous horn section.........the harp's not too bad waysider, but it sure ain't ni l'il walter!.......... #

another one by taj.........from one of his best, and most influential albums............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMeKlDnOSt4#

as usual, typically fabulous posts by great artists, from two of the usual song-of-the-moment's suspects!........thanks fellers!........here's one of my favorite taj tunes............ #

hiya rumrunner!!! ROTFL!!!!!..........that's as "god-breathed" as anything i ever read that twi produced!.......i think, despite your best wishes, that i just did see it "in the original"!........very funny post!..........thanks for unfolding gawd's word to us!........you da best!..............peace.

hiya mark........... I'm glad that, in your opinion, vinny's current theological musings line-up with your own theological opinions........maybe that contributes to your feelings, as expressed by the various posts you've politely contributed to this thread, that vinny, unlike the majority of vic's other "kids in the word" who run their own offshoots, has somehow done a better job at developing his own interpretation of scripture in a more humble, or "biblically accurate" manner than they have............and thus, has legitimately built his church on doctrine that in only a very few ways, resembles what twi drilled into his god-consciousness at the beginning of his "ministry" of the kingdom of god, and his current alliance with other churches of the abrahamic faith you mentioned...........is your agreement with "most of what vince teaches" also a part of why you keep "trying to point out that vince's church.........is not built on the same root as twi"? i have not seen anything on "vince's site" that demonstrates "there isn't love for god and neighbor", imho............what i have seen, is the same self-righteous ego about his "church", (which, btw, his site proudly proclaims vinny is the founder of, not jesus christ) as he had about vic's "church" when he was an acknowledged "prominent leader" in it........i see his proud declaration of his "leadership resume" as a bigshot in twi for many years, and his declaration that he was under consideration by vic for being the one to follow his "father-in-the-word" as the second prez of twi!............let's look at it in his own words, from the same letter from the "founder" of living hope international ministries, that you posted excerpts from......... During the early years of The Way, emphasis was placed primarily upon sound biblical principles such as the Word of God being the will of God, love for God and others as most important, complete dependency on and faith in God, and life should be lived today with a view toward the impending return of our Lord Jesus Christ. The doctrinal focus was regarding monotheism, the lordship of Christ, and the power of the holy spirit. I will always be thankful for Dr. Wierwille (the founder) and those early years in the ministry without which I don't think I would have lived to see thirty. Four months after attending my first fellowship, I went for one year to Kentucky where I served as a missionary witnessing eight hours a day with the Way's outreach program. Afterwards, I participated in their two year leadership training program. Upon graduation, I married Mimi Pyles and moved to New Jersey. We served there as state coordinators for The Way from 1974-1977. Our last year in New Jersey, I also was the coordinator of the Northeast region consisting of nine additional states. In 1977, we were invited back to the International Headquarters to serve as the Assistant to the President. In the seven years that followed, I helped coordinate the leadership training program and the outreach for the ministry. I was the Country Coordinator for the USA, then the International Outreach Coordinator, and finally the Worldwide Outreach Coordinator. During those years, I traveled to every state in the United States plus 40 countries around the world. I was privileged to fellowship with and teach thousands of people. Through all these years, I remained the Assistant to the President and was one of a few men under consideration to replace the President of The Way when he retired. Due to the mercy of God, I was not selected for this position; rather, we went to New York as state leaders for the ministry. after this "humble" listing of his twi "credentials", the two paragraphs you posted above in your post #54 follow............allow me to re-post some of the content within the fuller context as set by vinny himself in the paragraphs i posted above....... In 1987, the new President and Board of Trustees insisted upon a vow of complete loyalty to them, or the result would be termination from employment. The choice for us was simple, but the ramifications were massive. We had five small children, with our oldest being only ten years old. We lived in a ministry owned house, so not only did I lose my job, but also I was told we had two weeks to move out of the house. We had no savings, no personally owned car, no furniture except one bed, and were given one month's severance pay. It was one of our most challenging times, but also one of the greatest, because we had to depend completely upon God. We parted from The Way without bitterness or anger. In the long run, we had thankfulness for the good and repentance for that which we had done wrong. God gave us a clean new start. The ministry we once knew had died well over 20 years ago. We have been separated from The Way much longer than we had been associated with it, and what we now believe is light years apart. We have absolutely nothing to do with the ministry that now functions under the same name and hold a strong aversion toward any false claims of association. first of all, we greasespotters all know that the infamous "loyalty oath" edict that the doofus from okie sent out was in march of 1989, not during 1987...........what was vinny up to from 1986 through april of 1989?.......he was the limb coordinator of the way of ny, but a follower and supporter of geer, who was the defacto "leader" of twi from his sanctuary in scotland. he continued drawing his twi salary, lived in twi-paid-for "limb hq", enjoyed the "privilege" of spending twi "petty cash" funds for all his "expenses", visiting and "working with" the other twi "full-timers" under his direct "leadership", other twi "clergy", and inveigling himself into the hearts and needs of all the twi followers in one of its largest, and biggest financially supportive state organizations, which provided income for twi in the millions of dollars,..... all of which he then personally controlled! he conducted twi-business "as usual" stifling dissent and questions publically, while privately circling the wagons to himself, based upon the same hyperbolized twi "credentials" he lists in the paragraphs i posted above as well as securing the continued financial and "spiritual" loyalty of the various "vince-ites" still looking to him for direction and "guidance", who were scattered around this country and the "40 countries around the world" in which he also had loyal followers............all the time as fully aware as anyone of all the perverted dirt vp, king okie, the bot, geer, and many others, including himself were purposefully denying, and covering up, for their own protection as well as their own financial security. as far as "apologizing" to those he willfully and gleefully lied about and labelled as either "possessed", "bitter", "angry", etc., i was among those so categorized by the "repentant" vinny, and, to date, i have yet to receive any communication at all from "mr. humble", let alone anything that even remotely resembles an apoloigy........just because his current theology seems so "different" from vic's, that opinion does not validate his vague, non-specific, public "regret" for the part he played in the corruption and abuse that was vic's "ministry".........and i'm only one of hundreds vinny has evidently seen no need or responsibilty to apologize to for his mean-spirited, self-serving, and incomplete "repentance"......i guess my complete rejection of vic's "early years in the ministry" as being somehow "of god" precludes me from some such apology since i don't see very much good nor "godly" in those ealy years like vinny does, which can objectively be attributed to vic's "ministry"........i see the predominant "heart" of those early years as being an artfully disguised, self-centered, self-aggrandizing power-trip serving the psychosocial perversions of a mean-spirited, sociopathic, serial sexual predator and alcoholic.........but, that's just me......unlike vinny, i will not "always be thankful for Dr. Wierwille (the founder) and those early years in the ministry"............i guess that kind of heartfelt thankfulness is something only "ministry founders" can share!!! vinny's "ministry" is still based upon his twi "credentials", imo, which he used to parlay to himself a healthy financial base of willing christian givers as well as a fairly significant number of twi followers.......a pretty good position from which "god gave us a clean, new start", eh?............and even though he can "humbly" state that " We have absolutely nothing to do with the ministry that now functions under the same name and hold a strong aversion toward any false claims of association.", he can't deny the fact that he owes the existence of his current "ministry", lock, stock, and barrell, to the "ministry" of his "father-in-the-word", to whom he "will always be thankful"! rosie's twi is as different from vic's as vinny's offshoot is, and just as steeped in wierwilleism as vinny's offshoot is, imho. like i said previously, in our country we are absolutely free to choose to believe whatever we want.......we are free to determine for ouselves what we want to accept as "god's truth", based on whatever body of literature we decide to believe is "scripture". but, that freedom does not include the "right" to expect that everyone else who decides differently must acquiesce to our decisions before we accept their decisions to believe differently, without labelling them as "bitter", "angry", "possessed", or "accusations"....... or whether we deem fellow humans worthy of an apology for wrongs committed against them based upon our own doctrine of choice as previously or currently accepted to be "god's word, rightly divided"! i'm glad you continue to enjoy your study of the bible mark!.......i'm glad it brings you joy, peace, strength, and spiritual insight.........i'm glad vinny feels the same about his ministry, and that his followers enjoy his/their church.....i bear them no ill will, nor do i begrudge them their right to believe and worship god as they deem necessary and proper..........i'm also glad that my beliefs provide the same for me,,,,,,,,,but, i don't particularly enjoy the fact that my differing opinions about vinny's "ministry" are labelled by you as "accusations", because i happen not to agree with vinny's current interpretations of the bible, but you "mostly agree" with them.........my personal experiences with vinny are not validated nor invalidated based upon what he believes the bible teaches, or what you believe the bible teaches........facts are facts..........our personal choice of beliefs can and does effect our interpretation of those facts, but they do not alter the facts themselves.........you're entitled to your interpretation of the facts, i'm entitled to mine........but let's keep the record straight about that, and not label differing interpretations of the facts as accusations, thereby lowering civil discussion into opinionated bickering..........."just for the sake of accuracy"...........................peace.

cff already has their version of the rock every august, tents and all!......plus, they also have their commencement from akribos theological seminary in august.........so, the sewers will probably be where their "spiritual family" is!.........where else would those with the true "in-depth spiritual perception and awareness" only their one true god can bestow upon humanity be in august, other than "beautiful ohio", vaterland of their ministry and it's idol, der victoid????..........LOL! BODACIOUSLY SHAMELESS!............AUDACIOUSLY GAWDY!......................peace.

hey GT!........guess we were posting at the same time!.........just want to thank for the updates and the greasespot's new look!........i like it!.........thanks bro!..........YOU DA MAN!!!

ok.......i'll stop now.........after one more..........imho, "music ministers" may have many different messages, but the source remains the same........................peace. #

i swear this woman is an angel of music sent by god to "minister" to me, and consistently , through her music, move me to tears of joy and peace!!.................i love her! #two more "ministers of music"!...............genius, imho! #

an absolutely beautiful rendition of a great paul simon composition! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Lwx9F81Zs...feature=related#