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SRTS, leftovers ROCK! The Wif' is doing her magic right now in the kitchen with some. We went simple, had a turkey breast, crock potted, with simple accessories like stuffing on the side. Put the turkey breast in in the morning, add a cup of white wine, bunch of cracked garlic cloves, and some spices. Let fill the house with good smells all day. Carve it up. Everything you want, nothing you don't. Plenty for raiding later. We're not huge eaters although we are black-belt snackers so this is a good solution. The kids had made a dent in them too. :)--> baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

Oh geez. I thought this was the thread about clothes shopping, daddio. --> Never mind. baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

Hope, VP was a Walking Contradiction in many ways. He clearly articulated that to do anything at all, a person needed to go in the Way Corps and get the training, etc. to "really" learn how to stand, etc. He pushed some people to go in he wanted there, others he didn't. If you had something going for you like an education or money or an influential family all the better. If not, he often expressed an attitude like "well, you're not doing anything worthwhile anyway, you should", yada yada yada. He was always "on", always promoting and selling some aspect of the Way. He was a good example of what he wanted the Corps to be, able to go forth in areas of concern, interest and need and sell. I think I've mentioned before we were thinking of going in to the Peace Corps before the Way came along. When everyone was taking one of the first PFAL classes out here, we were taking a Pottery class we'd signed up for together and we didn't want to miss the last few sessions so we waited for the next one. :D--> I think the last class I took before dropping out and dropping in was a computer class, and figure this was 68, 69. Which is right where I picked up again a couple years after moving back out West. :P--> baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

What be dat, Paw? :)--> baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

Thank you, Lady Linda! Happy Merry Christmas and a Big Fat Joyful HO HO to you and to everyone! Best wishes and be careful out there if you're travelling! May your gatherings be sumptuous and your exchanges heartfelt. shower the people you love with love show them the way that you feel.... (james taylor)

It sounds like an honest question, JT. I'm just not sure what you're trying to find out. If the criteria is me and only me as the first hand witness, yes, yes yes I've seen and/or experienced many, lots, quite a few, a bunch. Last month I had a serious problem at work I was working on, a program I'm writing and I was stuck at certain points. I woke up one morning and a section of code was in my vision, right in front of me. Bingo. I knew immediately that was the problem and it proved to be so. Very much like finding a needle in a haystack. I'm very sure that was the spirit of God telling me what was wrong. Earlier this year I was talking to a friend, someone I don't know well but see now and then. She was having a bad day and I put my hand on her shoulder. A series of events ran through my mind and I saw her in them. They turned out to be what she was dealing with. The final event was something yet to happen and I made a suggestion as to how she might handle the whole thing. It happend the way I saw it. I can think of quite a few others over the years, including the whole period that coincided with my involvment in the Way. I don't know if they're "big" enough for what you're looking for though. An auto accident, broken rib and internal bleeding. I was prayed for and the injuries were healed within minutes. I felt it inside as it occured. Do they happen? As far as my own experience goes I'd have to say yes, and they're not limited by the times or circumstances. As far as my own experience goes they just happen when they do. While it may smack of old Wayfer talk, there are certain times when I know "inside" to do something or say something, or know about something and am able to participate in what's unfolding. From my standpoint, it's already happening and underway and I'm just observing it, although I guess it might appear at times when these kinds of things happen that "I'm" calling it. I'm just really not sure that's what's happening. At times I guess those involved might call it a miracle or something of that nature. To me, it's a normal part of my faith. I don't really know why others don't, I don't really think about it that way. I assume there's always a high possibility that something extraordinary can happen at any time. After all, "He's God." Maybe they're not miracles at all, but if the outcome's good, I'm happy to have seen it. baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs) [This message was edited by socks on December 22, 2003 at 22:08.]

Oaks, you sound like you're quoting those records like, well, records. :)--> A "believer" would say they happened just like that. An "unbeliever" would say they're lies, stories, myths, mistakes or embellishments. Frankly, I do think things like that happen today. I once read in a book I wish I still had, I think it was titled something about Surviving. It was a collection of incredible accounts that had happened to people, "miracles", but not a religious book. It had to do with survival in extreme situations. One account was of a guy who was lost at sea, believe it was a plane crashing in the water. He floated around in the water for awhile, trying to tread water. He eventually made it to land, miles away. He said that as he was trying to stay afloat, a huge sea turtle popped up out of the water near him and floated there for awhile. He was going to sink and drown so out of desparation he swam over to the turtle and shuffled up on the back of it trying to hold on. Suddenly the turtle took off and he just held on. The turtle swam to within land and before it beached, it turned around, the guy let go and he swam to shore. He swore that's what happened. I don't remember if it said he prayed or not. Another story in that book was about a kid in the midwest somewhere who fell through the ice on a lake and was submerged in freezing water for 11 minutes. Basically, he drowned and was dead when they pulled him up finally. He revived. These kinds of stories aren't exactly fire from heaven. Or are they? "Weird" things happen all the time, somewhere. Some of them have religious insinuations, some don't. On the other hand, when I think of things like Jesus walking on water, it's obviously an impossible thing that no one could do. Or is it? If He did it, apparently it can be done, it's just a matter of how it was done, what the cause was. Turtles saving drowning men? Coincidence? Or...? what...? baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

You might be a newbie on GS if... You got registered on GS but haven't posted yet because you're waiting to receive the list of Approved Topics that you can teach-um, I mean-share on. When it's your turn of course. If you used to think that "Email" was the Hebrew name for one of the sons of Ishamel ...you just might be a newbie on GS and the 'net. If you're sending Pawtucket 15% of your ISP host fees every month for fear he won't let you connect if you don't....yeah. You're probably a newbie. If the words "domain name" makes you dust off your old AC Syllabus pages on casting out of spirits, yup. You get a Newbie Cap. Oh, if you answered the questions in your personal profile on GS using more than 5 scripture references and now have a genuine suspicion that the one about "show tunes" may actually be a subliminal reference to the gay takeover of the arts, bingo. Free Snapple for the Newbie, we feel your pain. There's gotta be more signs.... :)--> baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs) [This message was edited by socks on December 13, 2003 at 22:14.]

Did something happen??? I thought you were talking about the Way. Something actually HAPPENED there??? :D--> Call Lima! Get the Wapak Bugle on the phone! No, this is big! Call the Dayton Examiner!!! :D--> baby's calling me home, she keeps on callin' me home.... (boz scaggs)

Cool. :)--> It's like a "group hug". I know one thing a lot of us used to dislike was being told what we had to do via Way Tree bureaucracy, whatever the next Big Thing was for our fellowships, yearly themes, "get the tape" instructions, "teach this", don't teach that. People here talk about the "old wineskins" thing of everything being tossed out from the past, etc. etc. etc. and it being anathema to reference certain things, yada yada. I can see that's not where you're at. :)-->But yeah, community stuff might be something cool to do for those who want to. It's a "sermon we can see". I often think of Jesus and the ol' loaves and fishes. The Samritan helping the guy who got attacked. Hungry peop's, gotta eat. Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Hey Keith, ditto to Vickles. One thing you might consider is community involvement, helping the needy. Food Banks that provide meals and groceries to people. United Way has lots of organizations under their umbrella, you can give them a call. Just cleaning out your closets and garages and taking all your old coats and clothes and stuff and donating them to people. It's Christmas. Some people aren't going to have much to share or share with others. Wouldn't it be nice to know some kids out there got something to make their season a little better? Life is hard for a lot of little ones who didn't ask for it to be that way. Might be someone out there that needs you, you've got a lot to offer. :)--> Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Ex asked: The ability to twist a square peg in a round hole and say it "fits like a hand in a glove". :D--> Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

double post-a-go go syndrome... Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Neat! 's the 'olidays! Well, I loaded the cd player just the other day. -Nora Jones -"Cool Yule, a Jazz Christmas", various artists versions of Christmas standards. -"Aaron Neville's Soulful Christmas", standards sung by The Voice. :)--> -Mix CD-assorted Shawn Colvin (Fat City, Few Small Repairs) stuff, miscellaneous Beatles and James Taylor. -Fiona Ritchie's NPR "Thistle and Shamrock" CD sampler of Celtic and Irish music. -"Liquid Spank" ©, CD of stuff I've recorded last couple years. In heavy rotation: Aaron Neville-The Grand Tour, Neville Brothers-"Live on Planet Earth", Johnny Mathis 5 CD compilation, "Venus Isle"-Eric Johnson, Reflections - Guitar, The Fender Guitar 50th Anniversary CD. Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Very cool, Danny. YOu reminded me of omething I'd all but forgotten about, a friend years ago in Florida who was looking into symbol ideas and came up with the anchor, and anchored cross. He was so excited! "This is a great image!" He made some drawings and things from it. Cool info, thanks! Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Y'know, in terms of symbols, the cross is a good one. Like the biblical references to the cross, it speaks to the whole of the event of the crucifixion itself, as well as what Christians believe it means. Even though it's so commonplace, it begs the question, "what's that mean?" For a Christian, it's more than a 10 word answer. The dove too, is a good symbol. I've seen some neat little thingies that are images of the cross, with a dove on the top or arm, about to take flight. And the tomb, with the cover/stone rolled away to the side is a powerful image. Death, and it's place, overcome. As Coolwaters said, the giving of oneself for a reason isn't unique to Jesus. "Greater love hath no man" indeed than to give all for a reason and many do so in life and in death. From the standpoint of the biblical writers, it was the series of events of his life, death and resurrection that came full circle on the day of Pentecost. One of the coolest pictures I saw was in an ad for a poster, several years back. It was of a young girl, littly tyke, and she's standing there looking up at someone, Jesus, with a worried look on her face as she holds his open hand showing the huge scar on the palm. In the caption she's saying "What happened to your hand?" It's very poignant, especially when you consider what his answer to that situation might have been. It's a state of mind, isn't it? An attitude of true gratitude. We have redemption in Christ, but that redemption isn't fully realized yet with this "token" we have today, but we have this sacrifice for sin in Jesus's death and the wholeness that it allows today and in the future. In the future, we "know as we are known". Today, the humanity of our spirituality is to our benefit when we live in the midst of this "saving grace." Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Thanks Ex. Glad you liked it. :)--> Raf, I had a long post all ready to go and reread the last page and danged if you didn't say the same thing. *delete*. It's really an "action speaks louder than words" thing for me when we get down to cases. Unfortunately, I see little connection between the "cross of Christ", the miracle of salvation and the lifestyle he lived of anger, rebelliousness and adultery. When I was young, it attracted me, and perhaps for the wrong reasons. As I matured, I realized we ain't gettin' nowhere like this. The fact that so many ministers, so called, have similar problems doesn't lead me to believe that it has to be that way, just that the field of endeavor has both weeds and flowers. Evan, a little "topic creep" music please...! Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Cool discussion. Oldiesman, that's a great quote from Kenyon, thanks. Ex, if I'm reading all this right, it really does illustrate exactly what you're saying, which is rippling out across my brain cells in SUCH a nice way. I can see it as two sides of the same coin, one side being what Christ actually did for us and the other side our growth and maturity in appreciating and understanding it. The more we are able to dwell upon, embrace and realize what He did and who He was, the more we are able to be what God intended us to be through Christ. The way the story goes, our redemption wasn't something *snapped* in to existence by a willful god with idle time on his hands. It was crafted by our creator, with purpose and meaning. Redemption by definition came at a cost. We can't skip over the cost to focus on the "blessings" that result from it or we risk losing the lessons of life it expresses - like ultimate total giving that is expressed regardless of the return to oneself. I tried to describe this to my son once by telling him, someday years and years from now, you're going to have a son or daughter and you're going to have to do something for them that's going to be hard and that may even hurt you personally to do. But you're going to do it anyway because you love them and you know they need you to do it for them. When you do, remember me and remember that anything I ever did for you was nothing compared to knowing that someday you'd have a son or daughter and when you looked in their eyes you'd remember me and see me and our life in them. And you'll know that our love will be forever. Its' so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (Jimi)

Got one today. :)--> Got an "atta boy" for my blood pressure, 117/74. It's been down for the last couple years, was higher a few years ago. I've also been poking around with vitamins. I'm taking a multi-vitamin, some extra C and E, with an Omega 3 and Alpha Lipoic acid supplement to make it all go round better, plus more veggies. This isn't in response to the flu season specifically, just trying to get my overall health rolling in the right direction this winter. A healthy immune system is the best defense. It's so very far away, takes about a half a day to get there, If we travel by my dragonfly.... (jimi)

Nice John! I've been pricing the HD tv's for a few years and they've dropped in price alright, still a tad pricey for me. I don't see watching movies on a pc monitor either, although I just got our first flat screen monitor from Dell, 21" and I really like the reduced space on my desk. Comcast has some plans for moving in to multi services on their cable service. Might play into it hey? We've got cable internet, Zix. Watchoo mean? :D--> Just tested my connection speed online, I'm at 2586 kbs, what's that, 2.5 megabits per? Normal connection speed is 2.3 throughout the day. I'm diggin' it! She's the wave, She turns the tide, She sees the man inside the child, it's alright, it's alright, alright, She moves in mysterious ways.... (U2)

my first double post! [This message was edited by socks on November 20, 2003 at 2:40.]

Hey Ralph, you need some software to "optimize" the image, which will reduce it's size. Here's a LINK to some tutorials that talk about it, as well as some other good information. If you have Windows XP, there's an optimization feature when you click on the file in it's folder, right click and select the email option and then look at the options for the image to reduce it. Send it to yourself and voila, you've got an optimized image. That might get you closer to the size. PhotoShop is a great program for doing this also, it's what I use, made by Adobe. JASC makes PaintShot Pro, which you can download free and use for a month and it's got features for this. It can also be bought on Amazon.com for 59 bucks, and it's a very good program with lots of cool things. First off you first want to crop the image, cutting out anything you don't need in it. That gets rid of unnecessary information that contributes to file size. Secondly, select an image size appropriate for what you're going to use it for...for the web, if it was a portrait vertical photo say, maybe a height of 150 would be right for an image of a face in a thread, it's what I'd choose anyway or close to it. In most programs, you can select an option for the correct horizontal size to be automatically matched to the height you select. Just play with it till it looks right...150 height by 125 width might be okay, say. Then select the optimization features. jpg's compress themselves. Once you save it you can see what size it is. Then work from there. Optimization can select common colors, get rid of some and let you look at it to see if the actual quality's being affected. Or send it to me, if you want. I'll do it for you and send it back. Just let me know what's supposed to stay in and what can be cropped out, if anything. Takes a couple minutes. :)--> soques@hotmail.com She's the wave, She turns the tide, She sees the man inside the child, it's alright, it's alright, alright, She moves in mysterious ways.... (U2)

Not hard for you, maybe! :)--> I hear ya though. I'm at a point where it's like a train wreck about to happen. Long as I keep moving it's okay! Getting in and out is a challenge. I'm doing this on guitar, and I've got one little "diddly dip" thing I can use, and another like it, and that's about it. The JP's helped me get past the comfort thing, for some reason finger picks always felt like I had weights on. She's the wave, She turns the tide, She sees the man inside the child, it's alright, it's alright, alright, She moves in mysterious ways.... (U2)

Hey Zix, what kind of finger picks are you using? A friend of mine that plays sent me some John Pearse, thumb and 3 fingers and I worked with them for awhile to learn a couple rolls. I'm not that good at it. Liked the John Pearse's though. She's the wave, She turns the tide, She sees the man inside the child, it's alright, it's alright, alright, She moves in mysterious ways.... (U2)

Well, greetings from de vino country, up Sonoma county way. Glad to hear the fires are under control. My wife's down So Cal way last week and this, came back over the weekend. We're praying for everyone there. Kit - Tom Boone, red hair, deep voice? I haven't seen him in years, but if it's the same guy, he was a good one. Don't know his whereabouts, no help there. practice makes perfect sense when it comes to love... >Michael Franks