Thomas Loy Bumgarner

Nope. Plagarised material from Bullinger, Kenyon, Ruben Archer Torrey, Pillai, Lamsa, etc. by a drunk/alcoholic, defrocked pastor who was too horny with woman, narsisisitic, bully, crybaby snowflake(but no blizzards unless Dairy Queen). Had parental problems with his father. Need I say more? Oh a poor student including college and seminary.

George Lamsa and Rocco Errico mention similar things

Wierwille even did not jog with the Corps. Instead he used a golf cart to get around HQ, rarely walking.

To Wierwille/Martindale, You are a mean one, Mister Grinch.

Let us give Mike the Flying Finger of Fate Award from Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. Wierwille did not use Funk and Wagnall for his research.

VPW only recognized 1 spirit and its name was Drambuie

Wierwille never learned from Charles Dickens, Dr. Seuss(who really was a Doctor), C. S. Lewis or anyone moral fiction. I don't think Marley or the 3 spirits of Christmas past, present, or future would have any effect on either Dictor or Cragsie.

Mike is drinking Drambuie and eggnog

yeah, VPW as Walt Disney, NOT!

Twit and snowflake

John wished me a Happy Birthday with blessings on Facebook. Then he tried to peddle his most recent books and classes.about the diameter of Jesus Christ. When I responded that I was using Alpha video and other video classes from Anglican, Methodist, Saddleback, and books by Frank Viola, Jon Zens, Milt Rodreigueiz, Theodore Austin-Sparks, Watchman Nee, etc. He said why waste my time with those losers who don't have the accuracy of scripture. Feel sorry for his ego(or is it id?)

wish there had been a Jesse Waters back then asking Wierwille general questions on normal topics to see his replies.

Leah and Mike return in January

Kathy welcome to GSC aka TWI addicts annoynmyous. My topic about Leah Remini was based on the A&E channel series which just finished it's 2nd season.

The Way and VPW never did original research, just plagarize Bullinger, Kenyon, Lamsa, Pillai, etc.and pass it off as novel. Wonder if Wierwille did that in school?

Interestingly, if VPW was alive today with all the sexual accusations by Hollywood and political, there would be investigations into Wierwille and Martindale by the media

You know the epistles were the wives of the apostles, don't you?

at least this Doctor has legitimate degree from Gallifrey unlike VPW from a diploma mill in Colorado. I would rather follow The Doctor(all 12 incarnations) than doofus Wierwille

Or Ron L. Hubbard and David Mischavege

Media reports on Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore, Al Franken, even Donald Trump. But nothing on Wierwille or Martindale, not even recently.

with recent events of rape/abuse by Harvey Wienstein, Roy Moore, Al Franken, and media apologizing for Bill Clinton, It's time that the media re-examine allegations by Wierwille and Martindale to the public.

Hubbard was a C student and left college after 1 year and 1 semester. I wonder what Wierwille's grades were at college and seminary.He also was a poor navy seaman. But at least Hubbard was in the military(although he had troubles with the officers) while VPW refused to serve during World War II.

As for writing a sequel to Born To Serve, Karen would be the logical choice, but I doubt TWI would publish it, she might have to self publish the material but I suspect she would sanitise it.

PFAL 77 was ar Ball State. Advanced Class had 1 session open to Foundational and Intermediate grads at Athens, Ohio which I attended