Kevlar2000

Well, there was a certain person we know who could've stood to build his fluency beyond the "Lo shanta malakasita" bit. Not mentioning any names, but his initials are VPW. ;) You are such a troublemaker!

Happiness and joy, Watered Garden!

Hiya mckeanj! I know others have already welcomed you, but now I'm welcoming you. So there! :D For many (including myself), there really were some amazing and wonderful times during our stay with the Way. For others, it was a nightmare from hell. Generally, it seemed the closer one was in proximity to the "head honchos", the more horror stories there are to tell. But that's just a personal observation from reading the forums. Your mileage may vary (YMMV). Now....Back to the pillowfight...um, I mean, the discussion! ;)

I can't say whether or not God ever spoke to Mr. Wierwille - I wasn't there for the alleged event(s). Certainly, the more notable alleged event(s) are suspect. I'll ask God. If he tells me, I'll let you know. I don't believe Mr. Wierwille truthfully and faithfully followed up on God's will, either from the written bible or any "revelation" he may or may not have received. His life and reckless ministry are the testimony of that.

You worked for a non-denominational religious organization called the Way International Your work skills include..... Your educational resume is..... Your responsibilities included..... Consider what job you are seeking with a particular company, and truthfully tailor your resume to the skills and abilities you believe they are seeking. Are you a consensus-builder? Do you have "take charge" leadership abilities? Do your skills and abilities match the position which you are seeking? If not, would they be willing to train you? Your experience and employment by the Way International need not be a hinderance to obtaining a job. It's all about how you present it to a prospective employer. And frankly, in an interview, how you discuss your experiences with a past employer may give them some idea of what kind of employee you would be with them.

This may be wishful thinking, but I would like the lyrics of the Irish song "The Parting Glass" to be my theme. Of all the money that e'er I spent I've spent it in good company And all the harm that ever I did Alas it was to none but me And all I've done for want of wit To memory now I can't recall So fill to me the parting glass Good night and joy be with you all If I had money enough to spend And leisure to sit awhile There is a fair maid in the town That sorely has my heart beguiled Her rosy cheeks and ruby lips I own she has my heart enthralled So fill to me the parting glass Good night and joy be with you all Oh, all the comrades that e'er I had They're sorry for my going away And all the sweethearts that e'er I had They'd wish me one more day to stay But since it falls unto my lot That I should rise and you should not I'll gently rise and softly call Good night and joy be with you all

"...for he cannot read his tombstone when he's dead." Of course, he can't read his tombstone when he's alive, either.

And here at Greasespot, it is.... just THE. All hail THE! :) You're right, Mo...just simple, subtle ways to get some of us to believe this information and kind of fellowship weren't available anywhere else.

My sympathies to all those who were DFACated. You hell-bound heathens, you!

It might be more time-efficient for them to keep a list of those who are allowed to attend a SNS.

Do the Coulters acknowledge or credit John Schoenheit's research paper on adultery? Or is that considered and old fores...I mean, an old wineskin? Kevlar - Not sarcastic, just ironic.

Aesop's fables come to mind. Rocky and Bullwinkle also come to mind, but let's not go there.

They're the guys that didn't want to be bothered flushing, so they designed the sensors that automatically flush when you move away. They'll also be the ones who'll design the sensor to lift the lid and seat when you approach, and lower it when you leave. On second thought, it will probably be a woman engineer who'll design that. Me personally, I have to put the lid down every time afterwards; I'm clumsy, and when I knock stuff off of the sink, it invariably goes toward the toilet. Maybe it's the Coriolis effect, Murphy's law or some other force of nature, but it's just like dropping a slice of bread with peanut butter and jelly; it almost always lands buttered side down.

Happy belated, Lindy!

You're right about that! :D

And, since every class offered by the Way has to have at least one dumb joke, I would like to offer this one: Why did the chicken cross the road? In the Greek, the word for "cross" is stauros...

I dunno about old, John; 58 is getting younger every year.

From the movie Airplane: "Surely you can't be serious." "I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."

Happy birthday to the choice of the litter! 100 never looked better! :D

I dunno, I always thought it was one of his made-up stow-reees, simply for purposes of illustration. I wasn't under the impression it was a real group. Although, with the rise of the fringe religious groups in the '60s and '70s, it didn't seem completely implausible. Any "innies" want to comment on this? (I know you were waiting for that. And I hate to make people wait. )

If I were a "long-time" innie, I might ask myself at this point, "So, I took Wierwille's 'foundational' class, And I took Martindale's 'foundational' class, And now I'll probably be required at some point to take this new 'foundational' class. What was wrong with the 'foundation' I had? Maybe I don't really need to take this class."

What's most disturbing to me is knowing in another 4 years (when I hit 55), I'll be eligible for senior citizen discounts at a lot of places. I don't feel so senior! Of course, I plan on taking full advantage of it! I took my dad shopping for Rockport shoes the last time I was in NY. The clerk said they gave a 25% discount to AARP members. I whipped out that membership card so fast I think I gave myself a paper cut.

Even with the recent Supreme Court watering-down of this Constitutional protection, any acquisition by a public governmental entity has to be shown to be for the eventual public good. Since TWI isn't a public entity, they do not have eminent domain rights or priveleges. Nor do I think they would have any claims under any adverse possession laws.

I guess my question to those who are still in the Way and are Advanced Class "candidates" is, Do you really think it's worth it? All of this intrusion into your personal life? This scrutiny of your finances (which, unless you're staff, the Way doesn't help you earn)? The anal-retentive obsession with your clothing choices? The ever-present, ever-increasing flaming hoops of requirement, every one of which you must leap without question, unsinged by the taint of common sense and independent thought? Especially you who have taken this class in the last five years or so. Did what you learned in the Advanced Class make you glad you sacrificed any semblance of a normal lifestyle? Did you learn substantially more about anything (especially the operation of the "revelation" and "impartation" manifestations, if they're even called that anymore) than what you knew before? I didn't learn much more about "operating the manifestations" then I had before I got there...and I attended the Advanced Class in Emporia in 1978. And most, most importantly...Did you have a closer, more intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ after you took that class? Did you love him more? Respect him more? Even think of him more often? If not, then what's the point? Was this trip really necessary?

Because... In the beginning was PFAL, and PFAL was with God, and PFAL was God. As long as you understand that, you'll understand their perspective. You're not criticizing a man's work. You're criticizing God Almighty and everything He is.