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Covered will be the dynamics of cultic totalitarianism to answer the question: how does the mad leader form followers and gain ascendance? How does the mad leader transform normal people, families, and organizations to his insanely controlled cultic regimes? For attendees fascinated by organizational (mis) development, a totalitarian sampler will be offered depicting diverse cult leaders in the context of their high-pressure organizations, with remarks as to the clinical features of patients who dissent from the MNL’s vindictive domination. The presenters will discuss how cult leaders cause a perversion of utopia, and shall offer clinically helpful notions about the MNL’s so-called god-drive, sexuality, and relation to Freud’s primal horde theory.

Friday, June 4th NOON till 3pm EDT Webinar Information by psychotherapist, presenter Charles Zeiders Malignant narcissism, the presenters argue, characterizes the core psychopathology of the cult leader. Drawing from their recent book, Malignant Narcissism and Power: A Psychodynamic Exploration of Madness and Leadership (Routledge, 2020), presenters Charles Zeiders, Psy.D. and Peter Devlin, LGSW will generate a profile of the Malignant Narcissist Leader (MNL). Via case studies, their workshop will unpack the malignant leader’s rise and fall, and the deleterious impact from the malignant leader’s selfish, but bizarrely seductive, manipulative, and coercive behavior. The presenters will reveal the malignant leader’s core character traits: Narcissism, Criminality, Paranoia, and Sadism. Drawing on cult studies, forensic psychology, and the humanities, they will depict the malignant narcissist in leadership as a trans-historical, cross-cultural phenomenon.

A guy thinking evil? That's certainly not objective, rational fact. That's your impression, your subjective reaction. Rather than take apart each of your irrational claims, I'll just leave this for you. From start to finish, Wierwille was a huckster, through and through. We bought the snake oil he was selling. You, Johniam, apparently are still buying.

Please read this news story and let us know how familiar it sounds. By JAMES QUEALLY, MATTHEW ORMSETH MAY 27, 2021 8 AM PT The Church of Scientology works hard to keep its inner workings out of the public eye. It has hired private detectives to keep tabs on straying members, and experts say its lawyers vigorously defend against legal incursions, arguing to judges that Scientology’s beliefs are not courtroom fodder. But at a hearing last week in the rape case against actor Danny Masterson, church officials were unable to stop their practices from being debated in open court. Three women took the stand to recount violent sexual assaults allegedly committed by the celebrity Scientologist, and each told similar stories of how church officials tried to stop them from reporting Masterson to police. (continued at the link above)

What if? For now we see as through a glass darkly... There we have, in a nutshell, the entirety of Wierwille's get rich quick scheme... people have extremely limited ability to discern even factual information, let alone truth about God and spirituality. Yet, it is a very deep and very human longing, to know God. Couple that with the enduring insight in this recent work of research: Useful Delusions: The Power & Paradox of the Self-Deceiving Brain. Put simply, Mike believes in his god, VP, because that's what works for him. WE, OTOH, long ago jettisoned VP as our savior because it no longer worked for us, overridden by massive quantities of cognitive dissonance.

or, 10 am in the morning...

WW, don't you know by now that Mike's "superpower" is obfuscation?

No, your expectation was actually a false supposition. I asked YOU what you meant. I didn't ask you to decide that I knew the meaning of your statement. That's awfully pompous and pretentious of you.

#Bullspit, Mike. See you in another three years?

Face it, T-, he's just messing with us, with you.

That's a droll mind game. Take what I say to you at face value. Rather than projecting onto me either what you're doing or what you want me to think. When I ask for clarification, that's exactly and only what I'm doing. Asking you to clarify what you mean by it. There is nothing tangible in my comment on which or by which you can reasonably suppose my question has anything to do with me. But then again, there's no question you are playing the same mind f**k games you've done in prior years. So, again, what do you mean? When you say you "act him out."

So Mike, how do you "act him out" when you're witnessing (exercising your ambassadorship)? Do you hmmm and ummm like you do with us? Do you obfuscate like you do with us? Or do you boldly proclaim what God and Jesus Christ (and Wierwille and his PFLAP class) mean to you? Do you tell them how you apply the principles and what happens as a result? Or do you shrink into meaningless words like you do with us? Mike said, in JohnJ's thread,

#Bullspit, Mike. As internet vernacular has progressed in the three years since you last "graced" us with your insight, "pictures or it didn't happen." I doubt anyone here would care whether you have pictures or not. But if you have no claims to make, you have no claims to make. In your case, it just didn't happen. If you're so excited about getting results by applying PFLAP in your life, you wouldn't care if people didn't believe you (or, as you put it, rejected your claims). Only posers would care whether anyone believes them or not. Are you a poser? Are you a faker? Or are you "excited about your ambassadorship?"

It was three years ago last month. In this thread.

Congrats on getting vaccinated. That's a wonderful thing for you (and everyone else) to do. I got both in February. I'm thankful. I don't know why you think it's odd. The last thing I remember you posting was that you had to do your taxes therefore didn't have any time to continue posting. Of course, you didn't say you'd be back when you finished your taxes (as I recall).

You made a claim. I simply would like you to substantiate that claim.

By all means, give us specific examples of what you applied (from PFAL, right?) and specific examples of the results you claim to have gotten?

Really? There aren't very many responses to John J's original post on this thread. Here's the main highlight: watch the video then give us you specific impressions.

Hi Mike, Exactly what part of that is "news?" Before you answer, please know that providing verifiable specifics would be necessary in order for any of what you declared to reasonably be construed as news. Nice to see you. I remember that you left a few (bunch) years ago at tax time. Did you get vaccinated? Rocky

Good for you. Humans are ALL about stories and have been for millenia.

Thanks for getting somewhat more specific. Since you were a kid, it was your parents' decision. Is that correct? Quantifying the "time you lost" might just be heading down a counter-productive rabbit hole. You only have now (in which to make decisions). That time you spent in TWI day care and day camp just becomes data in the database of your memories to fuel decisions you will get to make on your own now. What do you do with your time now?

There's not enough information in your post to answer your question. Please be more specific. Thanks. Who? What? When? Where? How? Why? Those would be some good places to start.

Me too.