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And I remember Wierwille haranging me for making a mistake of some kind regarding hook up of A/V telecom equipment later that year. And another time when Loy told us about the Jim Jones situation in Guyana.

I also remember encountering a person at the KC airport while waiting (with a bunch of others) for our ride to Emporia for the first day in-res for the 9th corpse. He tried to tell us that Wierwille was a false prophet... of course, none of us was, on that day, ready to listen to that.

Practical experience with direct supervision? If that doesn't shout CULT, nothing does. Also, it's very creepy. Aka the blind leading the blind.

Here's a theory: WHY did they need a Sabbath way back then? Because God said so? Or "did God say so" because otherwise they wouldn't get any days/time off from work? IDK, but if it was that important to me, I'd want to explore historical records for the sociological practices of the time.

This city boy had to wait until age 20 to learn it. But 45 years hence, I still remember.

Why is this important to you? (Please respond succinctly) Oh really?

Congrats to you for the life you've emerged into. There's obviously a lot more to our experience on this planet than what any of us has been able to learn only from the Bible.

Well, it wasn't that bad.

I learned, at ROA 75, how to kill flies with my bare hands.

I thought "Dotty" was VP's wife Dorothy, not Dorothy Owens. As in "thank you Dorothy, thank you Rhoda..."

Preferably, someone you'd want to learn something from.

TL;DR

Why do you keep responding?

Did any of the videos of classes ever have credits showing who did what to make the video happen? It's been a LOOOOOOOOOng time for me, but I don't recall ever seeing any.

It's up to you to make your case.

Totally! Gives the audience (viewer) a greater sense that they are REAL people, in many ways just like us. I've been very much enjoying Colbert and Seth Meyers especially. Even better when they include their young children. Like Jimmy Fallon did in one vid I watched last night... and Meyers two sons were there at the end of his vid this evening.

"I dont understand why you are saying I am being selective..." There you go... I highlighted it for you. Do you still not understand?

Dude, do you think you get points from God for being "right" about anything? Are you, by any chance, trying to make a case for joining a particular religious denomination (7th Day Adventists)? How much have you considered, in your study of scriptures, what God wants YOU to do (other than "holding forth" your interpretation of what's the right way to understand the Bible)? Btw, I don't need your answers, all three questions are rhetorical.

Btw, I believe there's a boatload of wisdom in T-Bone's comment just above my previous comment.

Tone deaf. Waxit, there's a HUGE difference between discussion (these are discussion forums) and preaching AT people. If you want to get serious about the Great Commission (ministry of reconciliation), you may want to do some research and reflection on the subject of emotional maturity. It is NOT emotionally mature to start off what might be intended to be an apology for having insulted someone by criticizing that person for wrongly getting offended in the first place. "Holding forth" the Word isn't something you necessarily get credit for doing if you act like you're in a vacuum. You're (at least in theory) conversing with real, live, humans. People with feelings and attitudes. If you're going to reach them, you'll have to be able to recognize them as such and actually love them. That just might entail empathizing with them. And that's even IF you have the correct take on what God intends to mean in and by the particular words you think you're holding forth. Just a thought or two.

Word! Me too!

I totally agree with Twinky's response to this rudeness from Waxit: " There is no need to be insulting just because someone presents a different and well-thought-out view." Waxit, it seems you've again missed the point. You're not "right just because you said so." You have to make an argument that makes sense. "even if most of the materia[L] (sic) was plagiarized by some clown" doesn't make your case/argument. There are plenty of possible reasons/causes why the "precepts" in the P-falafel class may not be good biblical principles. Examples thereof are well explained in Charlene's book, Undertow.

That's a long way around the question without even acknowledging the question itself. "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thessalonians 5:21 If you didn't learn it from Wierwille, where did you learn it? Okay, that wasn't the question. But did you ever make it your own? Did you prove it or just accept what he taught you?