Rocky

Well... essentially lawyers explained the law and the risk if anyone were to file a lawsuit.

I am confident twi wasn't the first organization to think/act in those terms. I can't imagine any person or group of any kind could have a copyright or patent on the concept.

??? 1) If you encounter them interact with compassion. 2) For all the times you do NOT encounter them...??? What's your responsibility at any time, for anything?

Because of the subCULTure Wierwille set up.

34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Anybody remember the joke Victor told when sharing these two verses? Was that in the PFLAP class? Something about hanging the Prophets?

Perhaps because TWI's corporate culture has ALWAYS been about proclaiming that they are RIGHT. Mistletoe Mike, of course, for more than two decades now has consistently demonstrated more concern with being RIGHT than he is about LIVING the two greatest commandments?

Who is preventing you from doing so? (rhetorical question)

It's all about the power dynamic. It CAN be (reasonably) argued the person in the role of "prey" has a responsibility or at least a right to survive. Loy, and his mentor, Vic, were predators.

Intriguing acknowledgment. That you approach your role as a GSC parasite as valid at all seems to miss the entire point. To put a stop to your wheel spinning and emulation of Sisyphus, you could possibly change your mission from debate to simply a declaration of your beliefs and leave it at that. The bottom line fact of the matter is you are not more right/correct than anyone else in life or on GSC. THIS is the essence of your two+ decades as a GSC parasite. IF you approach your role in terms of "I" statements (i.e. this is what I believe) you might just be less of a nuisance overall. Nobody really can argue/bicker or debate what you say you believe. Yet when you frame it as this is absolute truth, people can ONLY "debate" you.

Of course. "leadership" implies followership, or imitation of conduct and values of said leadership.

THIS/THESE scenarios are examples of how and why I connected the sexual indiscretion in TWI to the deviance in the Children of God as parallel and only different as a matter of degrees. Two keys in each: 1) authoritarian top-down power structure; and 2) deviant fantasies/imagination/ideation used by the cult founder to self-justify and rationalize practices counter to acceptable culture of the times.

That's both sad and reflective of long-standing contempt for any denomination by leadership of twi.

The entire post/comment from which this excerpt was taken appears to be classic projection AND an exquisite example of how the author of said excerpt fails/declines to demonstrate a certain property of legitimate credibility and/or leadership.

Did Vic EVER give ANY facts to support ANY of his assertions especially those which apparently differed from generally accepted Christian theology? (rhetorical question)

It seems some (but not all) of what this guy sets forth reflect what Mike does on GSC.

How tremendous, Twinky! In my prayers for you and your community. YOU matter to that community, I'm confident your impact on your church community is immense (in a wonderful way).

That one and a half line statement says quite a lot all by itself.

So sorry anyone (including you) had to cope with any of it. In case it wasn't clear or obvious, when I said "why did any of us put up with ANY of that crap?" I meant any of us who were of the generation where we got involved of our own choice.

Oh gawd, why did any of us put up with ANY of that crap? And I can't believe I'm the only one who committed similar abuse against spouse and children subsequently.

For more clarification, T-Bone had quoted Twinky and I quoted where T-Bone had done so.

That sounds like a first person account. So sorry you had to endure such bullshonta.

Mistletoe Mike again is acting as if he is the only standard for truth and understanding. Isn't that special? Further demonstration of his 1) unlearned arrogance; 2) being a GSC parasite. Gosh Mike, the fact you started a thread doesn't make you less of a parasite.

Yes indeed.

And yet, they are totally out of control. IOW, lacking coherence. IF he ever had any intention of doing anything other than aimless rambling, wouldn't he have to have an awareness of what and how his posts get lost in a miasma of nothingness?

Nor is he likely to so post anything anytime soon.