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Reading this, and seeing calzone, I'm thinking I'd like Guido Sarducci's take on the matter. Might be a 'novello' idea! I can just see him explaining while waving his hands around ...

I remember Angela and Perry from a few years ago; good people. i also seem to recall Angela's PhD was related to child psychology. Anyway, i think to get anywhere in the field, a PhD is pretty much a necessity. I do remember a Lonnel Johnson from years ago, a pharmacist, if i remember correctly, as well as an author. thats my $0.02.

i forget if I've answered already -- 1975-1994.

i eat the seeds with the watermelon, dont remember when i didn't. . .

A preacher. I think in another post on this site, Penworks mentions him. Noted quote "may your tribe increase."

Bob, you may have found by now, but i also found her on FB, last name beginning with J. It works.

Knew the Priesters when they were in northern VA back in the early 1990s; good people.

yep, just us chickens . . .pluck,pluck, pluck . . . . . .

Some thoughts: Callousness - can remember different situations over the years (~77-94) where the prevailing attitude toward was believe "the word" regardless of the situation. If people were having hard times, they needed to "believe," but that was never really well defined - particularly in my own mind. Reading posts along this topic got me thinking how we'd tell people to believe the word, and usually it meant whatever the "collaterals" said, reading the collaterals was a 'convenient' way of 'researching the scriptures' to find out if those things were so. In retrospect, i can recall how insensitive i'd began to get. Left (actually booted) in the early 1990s. That seemed to allow empathy and kindness to resurface in my life. Anyway, that was many years ago.

Dang, that brings back memories. I probably have a VCR tape somewhere. Funny thing, while i've had the tape for many years, i never watched it. Can someone help confirm my memory on this . . was there a live production of AOS in early 1985 at HQ - maybe February or March? Might have been the first live production? I recall traveling to HQ in early '85 with my wow family for some big doo - maybe was AOS. -per.

there 'may be' a 'bob h' on FB . . . - from rye ny, now in NJ

I generally remember VPW's reply when asked what he thought of the current President (at the time it was Carter) talking about being a Christian. He smiled and said, and i don't remember verbatim, but it was along the lines that the President talked about being a Christian merely to get votes. I think that statement colored my views for the next election when Reagan came in. This was at an 'ambassador one' weekend fly-in in 1978. One of the 'guests' had asked the question while we were visiting in the Wierwille home. I wasn't yet of voting age, but I kind of logged it into my thinking.

It's nice to enjoy events and living life without ulterior motivations/expectations imposed upon oneself.

Sometimes i like double or in this case a quadruple post - i need the repetition to remember it!!

The subject occasionally does come up - as in what the heck brought you to this part of the country - usually at the office, as opposed to away from the office where the question rarely comes up - the area is so very transient. I'm usually not evasive about it - it doesn't matter so much to me to tell people - but I don't tell just anyone the whole story. Sometimes, I'll just reply that it's a long story and offer to tell them about it sometime over a beer or two. Sometimes I'll say I was involved in a ministry outreach program that gave me the opportunity to move around a little. There are a few people at the office who know more of my story as I've had more lengthy discussions with them. One person I recently began working with regularly has heard of twi. We've had some interesting discussions about our respective beliefs. Some years ago - ten or twelve - I found that one of my co-workers used to be involved in twi. I noted some words the person used in a conversation one day. They mentioned being involved in a jesus movement - those weren't the exact words - I forget the precise wording, but at the time they sounded oddly familiar. I asked the person about it the next work day. They told me it was twi and that they'd been involved for only a couple years in the Baltimore area, and left left after becoming uncomfortable with some of the people. I don't recall now whether they had taken pfal or the later class. I then mentined I had been invovled for awhile - 20 yrs. We didn't talk much about the subject after that - not much to say. We both still work at the same place, but I rarely see the person as they're in a different parts of a large 'company.'