Mark Sanguinetti

My work load is very heavy now and I am a little worried that I will be able to get everything done that I need to. However, below is some basic scripture on only begotten and Jesus the only begotten Son of God. "Only begotten" is Strong's number 3439 and is monogenees in the Greek. There are 9 usages of this word in the New Testament with scriptures below. I will comment on this when I get a little more time. Until then all the usages are here for anyone to view and comment on. John 1:14 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. NKJV John 1:18 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. NKJV John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. NKJV John 3:18 18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. NKJV Heb 11:17 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, NKJV 1 John 4:9 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. NKJV Luke 7:12 12 And when He came near the gate of the city, behold, a dead man was being carried out, the only son of his mother; and she was a widow. And a large crowd from the city was with her. NKJV Luke 8:42 42 for he had an only daughter about twelve years of age, and she was dying. But as He went, the multitudes thronged Him. NKJV Luke 9:38 38 Suddenly a man from the multitude cried out, saying, "Teacher, I implore You, look on my son, for he is my only child. NKJV

Thanks for the input Hairy. Yep, Momentous was a bizarre and colossal mistake by CES. One that they will likely never admit. I live near the headquarters for Mementous or whatever they call it now so I am somewhat familiar.

Oregon is a very beautiful state. I like it also.

It was beautiful out there. The bike ride I was just on was invigorating as well as being strenuous. The hill I live on is a real killer coming back, but I made it again without stopping. O.K. I can give my view on that. However, it will have to wait until tomorrow or the next day. I would prefer to quote from scripture and my excellent bible software is not on the computer that I am using now. However, it is on my office computer and I will be back at work tomorrow. Cheers.

I just did Cynic. Jesus is the saviour of mankind. There is no other Saviour. That is as unique as it gets. And if you are waiting for me to start quoting from CES materials my advise is to not hold your breath.

CES like other Christian groups teach that Jesus is the Son of God and Saviour of mankind. Isn't that better than using the word unique in describing Jesus? Isn't being the saviour of mankind unique? It sounds like you are striving about words Cynic. The word you are striving over is the word unique. Sorry I don't have any CES material in front of me to see if they have adequately used the word unique. Have a nice day. It is sunny out now in California. What am I doing in front of my monitor?

Baloney, but please hold the mayo. Even Wierwille stressed that Jesus was the Son of God. One of the first chapters of his book is nothing but scripture references, over 50, pertaining to Jesus being the Son of God. I no longer have a copy of Wierwille's book, because I think that the CES book, "One God and One Lord", is better so please don't ask me to quote from it. However, I do disagree with CES's spin on Administrations. I was going to write the 3 CES leaders telling my views. However, I got side tracked with other projects. Maybe at a later time. In short, the much more scriputural teachings of covenants between God and man much more adequately explains the changing relationship between God and man and its effect on histories time periods. This also glorifies God more which is another problem with the CES administrations teaching which sometimes does not. Even picking up your bible and seeing Old Testament (Covenant) and New Testament (Covenant) tells us that this is far more pertanent than CES's ideas on administrations.

That is a good prayer. Better than a a lot of prayers that we did and had while in TWI.

Chuck, I defended you on another thread from what I felt was a personal attack. I want to be honest with you though. You sound irrational at this time. I hope whatever it is that is troubling you can get resolved in your mind and that you can gain some peace. My prayers are with you and I am very sorry to hear about the hardships that you have faced lately.

Zixar, you threw the first stone on this thread. You called Chuck a liar and a baby. Excathedra already told you clearly what you did. So why didn't you get the message the first time? Arguments just seem to follow you where ever you go. I think you like it. The problem is that when someone fights fire with fire with you, you usually whine like a school boy and go running to Paw for stricter rules. So now you have found someone, Chuck, that does not write well and that you can bully on this forum. Well Zixar, enjoy it while you can.

Zixar, you found a post that you disagreed with politically. A post that did not mention your name or your own differing political views. Then you proceeded to insult the writer of that post. Yes, I know the post was scattered in thought. It may have not been a very good post at that. However, what was your point in insulting the person that wrote it? Your last post addressed to me was pure rationalization. I am glad that Long Gone is trying to work with you. I only hope you will listen to his counsel.

Zixar, can't you say a kind word to anyone here that has a differing point of view? Arguments seem to follow you where ever you go on Grease Spot Cafe. What is your problem today?

Mary Cate you are a riot girl. Gonna miss your posts. Actually Grease Spot needs someone with spunk and a sense of humor to match like you have shown the last few days.

Pretty sly Jessica. You got that one through the sensors. I won't rat on yea though. Hey, I saw a little bit of Spiderman the other night. I thought it was pretty good. Sort of a cross between Superman, Batman and Revenge of the Nerds. I will have to watch more of it, but it was late at night and I had to go to bed. Be good now. Love, Uncle Mark

Who turned on the music? And how did you do that? Does this site accept HTML coding? I now the old one did.

Searcher, Tea is a much better drink than coffee. It not only is better for you, but it also tastes better. How do you like your tea? Perhaps with lemon and sugar. This may not be very English, but I like my tea iced and with lemon and sugar. Thanks for posting.

Searcher: You sound like a good poster. I must tell you that there are food fights in this place all the time. I think it is because of the oppressive religious background that many of the posters come from. Now people have their freedom and are afraid to lose it. To be blunt this fear sometimes makes people stupid while showing extremely poor judgement as to who the oppressors really are and who the deliverer is. I have tried to explain this in a teaching that I did, but people are sometimes very slow to get the message. Anyway I hope you decide to keep posting. Sorry again for the food fights. They are definitely not your fault, but to be honest people need a strong stomach in this place. Here is a link to my teaching on Jesus Christ's Lordship. Peace, brother. http://www.waychrist.com/Lordship_JC.htm

Thank you Doug. Personally, I prefer contact with people from a diversity of backgrounds. Please carry on and thank you for your input.

Thank you Chuck. I hope you are doing well and at peace.

Looks like one wild ride to me. I mean the slopes. Err, actually the slope.

Yes, I remember the agostic threads of Grease Spot Cafe. They went on and on and on. They made the thread that Refiner started look Very Tame in comparison. The fact that there was an uproar over this showed a real lack of patience and other spiritual fruit from a few of those who express their Christian faith here.

Zixar, I am sure that Paw or one of the other moderators will look at the posts in question. I am sure they will be very fair and unbiased. However, when they reach a decision on them and if it is not favorable with your point of view, then you need accept their decision just like if it was favorable with your point of view. Other than that, if you want a better Grease Spot Cafe start making better posts. Why don't you start an astronomy thread? If you do I will participate.

Zixar, it is real simple. If you want Grease Spot Cafe to be better come up with better posts. Either that or we can start offering you cheese with that whine of yours.

People seem to me to be overly worried about so called Grease Spot outsiders suddenly coming here and some how not upholding to Christian teachings about Jesus Christ. Below is a link to a teaching that I have shared with some of the Grease Spot posters. http://www.waychrist.com/Lordship_JC.htm For your information Refiner read this article and said he really liked it. Thought it was excellent. People need to understand that there are people, such as Refiner, who don't disagree with the spirit of Jesus Christ. Rather they disagree with the fundamentalist views of many of todays Christian leaders. Frankly, I agree with this assessment. In fact, like Refiner, I too do not agree with many of the so called fundamentalist views of scripture. Some are even based on down right ignorance of what the bible actually teaches about Jesus Christ. My main point of contention with them is that they seem to have lost the spirit of the teachings and replaced this with a brand of legalism. Furthermore, like in TWI, they seem to think they have a superior knowledge of the scriptures compared to others. Such ignorance should be rather obvious as the bible teaches repeatedly that only the meek will know and understand the spiritual things of God.

Searcher, I am sure that it is nothing that you wrote. Frankly, a few of the posters here can be somewhat antagonistic, especially when it comes to their politics. Most are pretty good though and are quite helpful. Stop by anytime. You sound like a good hearted person. Peace!