WordWolf

T-Bone, 2 posts up..... "Twinky said “We know that many of those OT prophets thought they were forsaken by God, at times. They despaired of their own lives. They must have thought God was backing off from his promises.” I think that’s a fair assumption to make. But in retrospect it seems to me wierwille put a law-of-believing-spin on Romans 8 - perhaps intentionally making light of Old Testament believers and their experiences/hardships to seem of little importance or value – because he zeros in on the idea that WE instead are more than conquerors and don’t have to put up with and endure all that distress, deprivation, misfortune –" =================================================== A number of times- including one ROA evening teaching-("Believing- Hebrews 11") wierwille was rather specific. When he taught on Hebrews 11, he stopped briefly on Hebrews 11:35. 35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: wierwille then expounded some very specific error. He taught that they COULD have been delivered, but they chose not to ask God Almighty for deliverance, because they were "tired of the fight" and just wanted to die and get it over with, so that they'd just get to a better resurrection. So, yes, he taught that the suffering prophets of old could have believed their way out of suffering and stuff. This error was SO egregious that chris geer later, in between making it sound like wierwille regularly walked on water, taught this differently- without mentioning that wierwille taught it wrong. ("Principles for Victorious Christian Living 1- God's Roll Call of Honour." ) The "deliverance" mentioned in verse 35 was a secular deliverance. Those torturing them would have stopped if the prophets would have recanted. The prophets refused to renounce God- and obtained a better resurrection. vpw's blind spot due to his insistence on his fictional "law" of believing tainted even the reading of relatively-straightforward sections of Scripture.

One rule we've agreed upon for the thread as a whole is that the songs have to have had actual airplay, and not just have been album cuts. The idea is that album cuts will only be heard by those who have the album, but airplay includes a LOT more people. I've loved songs that never got airplay, so I've never used them in this game. Keep in mind that if one song on an album gets airplay, that doesn't mean ALL the songs on the album got airplay. Even albums where most of the songs were hit singles usually had at least 1 or 2 songs that never got airplay. George never said this was one such song, just that it might not have been- and if it was, it's outside the convention for this thread. Honestly, it's not fair to expect people to know songs that never got airplay no matter how famous their albums got. I'm sure you'd complain about that if others posted album cuts you never heard nor heard of.

*looks it up* Never heard this one, either. You know, there's quite a few songs I like that I could post but I don't because they came out in the 90s and I don't think any of you have heard them. I don't get on you about that, I just post a different song that you probably HAVE heard. For me, I set my cutoff, as a rule of thumb, for 1985. After that, unless the song blew up, I don't think you've heard it. On the other side, unless the song had airplay from the late 70s on, I have no chance whatsoever to have heard it. (Unless I've heard the album, which is pretty rare, but possible if rare for the Beatles because Mrs Wolf likes the Beatles.)

I got that it was a Beatles song. *looks it up* I've never heard this song get airplay, and I've never heard this album. I recognize classic rock songs that have had airplay SINCE then, not songs that only had airplay in the 60s or early 70s. With the Beatles, I've a chance to have heard SOME of their albums, but not ALL of their albums.

I can answer that I have no idea what song this is. I doubt Raf knows any better. Unless he's married to a Beatles fan, he's listening to less of their stuff than I am, now.

Keanu Reeves Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure George Carlin

Those are all actors. This is not a list of roles, it's one role shared by those actors.

Walter Cronkite Robert Preston Orson Welles

John Laroquette Stripes John Candy

How confident are you that Mark Harmon was in a movie called Kirstie Alley?

A guess... "Walker Texas Ranger?"

Ever heard of JAMES CHARLES RYAN? You have if you've heard of Bishop K.C. PILLAI. They're the same person. "Joseph K.C. Pillai" "was his Indian name." https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/anglican-churches-0 "' 'The Anglican Church in America' was founded in 1991 following merger talks between the American Episcopal Church and the Anglican Catholic Church (ACC)." ".The American Episcopal Church was founded in 1968 by a group of former clergy and members of the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Orthodox Church. They sought a more loosely organized structure than that offered by the Anglican Orthodox Church and formed the new jurisdiction with a congregational polity. The church turned to James Charles Ryan, better known by his Indian name, Joseph K. C. Pillai, of the Indian Orthodox Church, for episcopal orders. Pillai then became the first primate of the new church and merged the Indian Orthodox Church into it. In December 1968, Pillai consecrated James George as Bishop of Birmingham. Bishop George succeeded Pillai as primate following the latter's death in 1970." https://san-luigi.org/churches/catholicate-of-the-west/mission/syro-chaldean-metropolitical-see-of-india-ceylon-mylapore-socotra-and-messina-decree/ "between August 1945 and 11 October 1947 Mar James (James Charles Ryan also known as Joseph Chengalvaroyan Pillai) served as Exarch for the Indies in the Catholicate of the West." I'm sure there's a story there. Why did he need so many names? https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/23131-ash-heap-of-twi-story/#comment-543998 "A quick summation......in the summer of 1953, wierwille's brother harry was in Tennessee. He stopped to visit a Christian children's camp and an Anglican bishop from India, was the guest speaker. This speaker was Bishop K.C. Pillai. Harry invited him to meet with vic in Van Wert, OH. Pillai's church and connections back in India set Dr. I.S. Williams (and family) to host the wierwilles during their stay in Bombay. Another thread, years ago gives more details." Click Here - Narcisstic Self-Promotion ================== Although Pillai claimed to be an expert on the Bible lands' customs and cultures, he was from INDIA, and did NOT grow up in the Bible lands. He was familiar with MODERN practices in a completely different sub-continent, and claimed they were the same thing.

Um, waysider? 1) That link is misspelled. You meant to point it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._C._Sreedharan_Pillai but you misspelled "en.wiklpedia" so it's a dead link. 2) That goes to someone else who shared his name. THAT guy had a legitimate math degree. On his page is a link to the other guy. "For the Indian Orthodox Bishop and Biblical research author, see K. C. Pillai." 3) THAT link doesn't get into his past at all.

Well, you DID get it.

"When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride Till I get to the bottom and I see you again." That's all one sentence!

No.

"When I get to the bottom I go back to the top"

That's it, complete with the correct spelling. With the Star Wars character, his first name is an anagram of "liberte". His home planet is "Shinbone", the town where this movie takes place. (He was introduced solely as "Valance" and I thought it was a reference to electron shells.) According to Robert Wuhl, the Liberty Valance effect is when fiction becomes part of accepted history. He discussed it when he discussed why everyone knows Paul Revere's ride, but Israel Bissell rode a much longer distance the same night and almost nobody remembers him.

-"You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?" "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -There's disagreement as to why this movie was filmed in black-and-white. This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." His first name was "Beilert." (It's almost an anagram of the first name of the character who inspired him. I can't post the name because it's in the movie title.) -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row ("John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford.") -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending. -Most people wouldn't name this movie if asked to name a John Wayne movie. However, The Duke was in this movie. _Excerpts from reviews: "Long before Watergate-era cynicism about the media set in, we were told with a wink by perhaps the West's principal mythologist to be skeptical about everything we had been told." "With all the Ford requirements and the Ford mystique, including John Wayne and James Stewart off- setting each other's archetypal physiques, presences, worlds and implications; and Edmond O'Brien, at his uproariest." "Hence, contrary to expectations of realist films, this western stands out for how comprehensive a town and a world it manages to build around its central event." "There's much to say about it; the simplest is that it's both the most romantic of Westerns and the greatest American political movie." -According to "data", this movie made the top 50 best movies of all time. I must say, choosing to film a movie in black-and-white in 1962 is risky, but the director made it work for him.

"Johnny B Goode?"

Not that he's getting much successful results, but even dismal returns are better than stony silence and/or laughter, so he sticks to the twi/ex-twi crowds.

So, he advertised with them there just like he advertises with us here- since he hasn't been kicked out of either. His sole audience HAS TO consist of twi and ex-twi because nobody else will buy into "vpw was akin to Superman, had a special connection to God, and God Almighty told him to plagiarize a bunch of other Christian writers, for which we should be thankful. The results have replaced the Bible."

So, something related to the Founding Fathers.... No "Lin-Manuel Miranda", so not "Hamilton." Some of those names work for Ben Franklin, but others do not. So, maybe this is "THOMAS JEFFERSON." Let's go young instead of old.

-"You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?" "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -There's disagreement as to why this movie was filmed in black-and-white. This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." His first name was "Beilert." (It's almost an anagram of the first name of the character who inspired him. I can't post the name because it's in the movie title.) -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row ("John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford.") -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending. -Most people wouldn't name this movie if asked to name a John Wayne movie. However, The Duke was in this movie.

This is some list. Hans Conreid isn't known for almost anything, unless you're a Hans Conreid fan. Then you know he played Percy Livermore, Dan Jenkins (both "I Love Lucy" roles), Dr Terwilliger in that "Dr T and" something movie, and he did some voice work for animation like the Rankin-Bass "The Hobbit." Nick Nolte I remember for "48 Hours", Jeffrey Jones is most famous for Principal Rooney in "Ferris Buehler's Day Off", and "Daveed Diggs" sounds African-American from that name. Kevin Kline I remember best as Artemus Gordon in the remake of "Wild Wild West." (I almost confuse him for Kenneth Branagh, partly because they both were in that movie.) Charleton Heston is known for playing classic roles. It's possible all of these men, when starting out, went onstage or on TV or something and shared at least one classic role, like Shakespeare or the Bible or something. Taking all of that into account, my first guess will be "Moses", with Charleton Heston as the most famous actor in the role.