Stayed Too Long

This was Rocky’s initial response when I posted about forgiving VPW and LCM and there was no concern about going off topic. In 4) Rocky thanked me for reading and watching the video. Even as chockfull and I have been going back and forth for several days no concern was shown until today.

My heart is so thankful for you. My wife and I went through the adoption process and know it is intense. Congratulations to you both!

You have completely missed the entire purpose of ghee or clarified butter. It has been explained in prior posts on this thread so I am not going to repeat them. You seem to be consumed with the word rancid, trying to equate it with $2.95 butter. What price do you pay for your rancid, bacteria free butter?

It must be my incorrect wording, but I did not mean to imply you were equating Wierwille or Martindale to murderers. I only used the anology of murderers to illustrate that survivors found it necessary to forgive the murderers for their crimes in order to move on with their lives. The anology could have been someone spreading lies about them, stealing their money, taking credit for doing something another performed, or you can fill in the blamks with your own examples. If one believes in the bible it is apparent Jesus certainly practiced forgiveness, as he forgave those who crucified him, as they were crucifying him. It did’nt take him decades, years, weeks, or days to forgive them, but immediately. Can you image yourself being kidnapped, raped, hog tied, beaten, pistol whipped, thrown in the trunk of a car, driven to another spot, removed from the trunk, dragged to an awaiting hole in the ground, a shotgun aimed at your head, and you knowing full well you will be dead in the hole soon, and your final thought and words being, “I forgive you because you don’t know what you are doing?” Again, if one believes in the bible, it says you can do greater works than Jesus, so the above scenario is certainly within the realm of possibility. Wierwiile and Martindale definitely controlled and manipulated us, but nothing they did compared to murder, so us forgiving them should not be an over stretch or out of the realm of possibilities.

How about practicing some understanding of Wierwille and Martindale, after all, they are only human beings, and as pointed out in the video, deserving of forgiveness. Many people have had to find the inner strength to forgive those who have murdered their loved ones. There are murders who have been spared the death penalty only because the victim’s survivors asked the authorities to not execute them. Only then could they move on with their lives.

You have just joined the ranks of Mike! Congratulations.

“Weight loss and increased physical fitness nearly halved the risk of losing mobility in overweight or obese adults with type 2 diabetes, according to four-year results from the Look AHEAD (Action for Health in Diabetes) trial funded by the National Institutes of Health. The results are published in the March 29, 2012, issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.” Most people have the ability to lose weight and become more active, and it will allow them to become more mobile.

A business is charged a fee from the issuer each time they accept a debit or credit card for payment. Some business’ are now adding the fee onto the cost of their services. It used to be there was no fee for using a debit card, but that seems to have changed. For a small business it is very costly when an item is returned to the company. They are charged up to 3.5% when the sale is made, and up to 3.5% when the item is returned, resulting in a net loss of 7% of the sale price. I work part time as a cashier for a food chain and believe a card is used 90% of the time for purchases. Paying with a check is used much less than paying with cash. We only accept checks from local residents who have their address printed on the check.

I should have said the Pentegon is still denying any coverup. We only have the data now of UFOs because of the whistleblowers bringing it to the U.S. congressional hearings.

Congratulations! It took you several decades to realize Mike’s responses are not on the up and up. Why so long?

You have made numerous posts about true repentance that are difficult for me to understand. Please put concisely in one post your definition of true repentance. Who do you believe is afraid? What mind games are being played? Thank you.

We know the government is not going to shed any light on the UFO situation. Their response to the whistleblower was to demand they not disclose any classified information they know about the situation. All the feds are doing is holding a gun to the head of anyone who would shed light on the situation.

Depending on the catagory of one’s life being addressed, measuring defeat can be varied. If a baseball hitter successfully gets on base 3 out of every 10 trips to the plate, he is considered a success. If a parachutest fails to deploy his or her chute only 1 time, it can lead to the ultimate defeat. A sales person is required to make a minimum amount of sales to be succeesful. A business owner may not get too many chances to succeed if they cannot read the market they are invested in. Of course these fall into the catagory of making a livelihood, so one must also be able to know their limitations. If you choose baseball as a career, and out of the last 10 times at bat you get a hit only 1 time, it would be wise to choose another path to support your family financially. If someone is talking about bettering their life emotionally, mentally, or physically, they had better be prepared to accept defeat on many turns, but not allow themselves to become defeated. I have experienced defeat so many times when attemting to grow mentally, it is impossible to count. The only thing I can do is pick myself up, start over again, and probably be defeated again. But, at some point, a bit of light shines through, and all the effort has been worthwhile. The result may not be totally what I wanted, but it keeps me going on to greater heights. At one point in my life I was terrified of public speaking. To overcome this I joined a group called Toastmasters International. It’s programs began with very easy tasks such as talking in front of the group for a minute. Then learning how to avoid saying, “uh” every other word, then lengthening the speaking duration to 5 minutes, to going to speach meets competing against other groups. The point being it was like taking baby steps, and not a huge leap forward. As long as a person can find habits, thoughts, and actions to change in their life, they will never want for something to do.

A visit to Yellowstone National Park and Old Faithful Geyser, plus hundreds of other boiling pots, will allow anyone to experience what burning sulphur smells like….rather obnoxious, for sure.

We must be led down a rabbit hole by someone, and we have to ultimately decide to follow them down the hole, just like we followed VPW down his rabbit hole called TWI. After awhile it should have become obvious there are several rabbit hole “leaders” who post on GSC, and their intentions are only to disrupt the thread. They will twist just enough of the subject with the idea of only inticing others to bite and take the bait. Once hooked, apparently the gullible actually believe they can point out the errors to the “leader” of his/her posts, and he ar she will miraculously thank them for the correction. But instead, the “leader” slightly twists the subject a bit more, and drag the firmly hooked, further down and around the hole. After days and pages of postings, that have accomplished absolutely nothing, the hooked finally give up in exasperation, but seem to only wait for their “leaders” to throw out the next bone for them to chop on, and the crazy arguments continue again. Could it be that we have some of the same, still within us, that allowed a man to lead us into his cult and control our lives for years and decades? Do we still need to be led by another? Or might another possibilty might be, after several decades of posting on GSC, there are simply no new subjects to discuss about TWI? We have dug up postings begun twenty plus years ago, and put a new twist on them. Do we need to run down rabbit holes to keep things interesting day to day on GSC?

Having the training and your occupation as a dual diagnostic counselor, goes to show that anyone is subject to the lies and deception of the man you believe has your spiritual interest at heart. The reason GSC is here is to enable people, to once again think for themselves, by offering support from others who have gone through and came out the otherside. Read all that is posted for the past 20+ years to get the support you need. Welcome.

I agree we contribute to people and events to make our life worthwhile, or it would not be too much fun at all. But that doesn’t seem enough for many people…..They have to become immortal and live forever, instead of being a being a passing September. By the way I think she has a horrible voice.