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excie--I used to live in hell, also known as soCal. I have lived back up in NoCal, my native land for 4 years now. edison field is not visited by life-long Giants fans such as myself, after last fall's debacle and melt-down. Sorry--maybe mike could head over and check it out....or whyteduv, she's not far away....

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Rafael pucker up Tom want's a kiss.

Exie that's an interesting article on "The Passion" I can't help but being reminded of "The Apostle" with Robert Duvall. It took him years to get that movie out, after putting up 4 million dollars of his own money, but WHAT an excellent movie.

In fact my little signature above my rottie angel is from that movie (it's a song) it was so inspiring.

I think my favorite line from that movie though is after he bashes that youth pastor with the baseball bat (for breaking up his family)he tells his friend "I think I just sent him on the road to Glaw-ry" Classic!

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...Ain't no grave, gonna hold this body down..when I hear that trumpet sound...

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Here is an example of Aramaic, transliterated for your reading enjoyment:

wplmlw dbeml axysm ewsy nrm yr?d nylya nyhlk le alypwat wa tbtk aymdq abtk 1

a?dwqd axwrb abgd nylya axyl?l nwna awh dqpd rtb nm qltsa hbd wh amwyl amde 2

ahlad atwklm le rmaw nwhl awh azxtm dk nyebra nymwyb ataygs atwtab ?xd rtb nm yx dk h?pn nwhl ywx pad nwnh 3

ynm nwtem?d wh abad hydww?l nwwqnd ala nwqrpn al ml?rwa nmd nwna dqp amxl nwhme lka dkw 4

aaygs atmwy rtb al a?dwqd axwrb nwdmet nwtnaw aymb dmea nnxwyd 5

lyrsyal atwklm tna anpm anbz anhb na nrm hl nyrmaw yhwla? ny?ynk dk nyd nwnh 6

h?pnd anjlw?b nwna ms abad nylya anbz wa anbz edml adh nwklyd twh al wh nwhl rma 7

aerad hypwsl amdew ayrm? tyb paw dwhy hlkbw ml?rwab adhs yl nwwhtw alyx nwlbqt nwkyle a?dwqd axwr atat dk ala 8

nwhynye nm ysktaw htlbq annew qltsa hl nyzx dk rma nylh dkw 9

arwx a?wblb nwhtwl nymyq nyrbg nyrt wxkt?a awh lza wh dk aym?b wwh nyryx dkw 10

ankh aym?l nwknm qltsad ew?y anh aym?b nyryxw nwtna nymyq anm aylylg arbg nwhl nyrmaw 11

aym?l qlsd yhynwtyzxd am kya atan

nwdjsa aeb? kya hnm qyrpw ml?rwa bng le yhwtyad atyz tybd arqtmd arwj nm ml?rwal nwhl wkph nkrtb nmw 12

amwatw swpylypw swardnaw bwqeyw nnxwyw swrjp hb wwh nywhd yh atylel nwhl wqls wled rtb nmw 13

bwqey rb adwhyw annj nwem?w yplx rb bwqeyw ymlwt-rbw ytmw

yhwxa mew ew?yd hma myrm mew a?n me ?pn adxb atwlsb wwh nynyma adxka nwhlk nylh 14

rmaw nyrsew aam kya a?nad a?nk nmt nyd awh tya adymlt tesm apak nwem? mq nwnh atmwyb nwhbw 15

nwnhl anrbdm awhd wh adwhy le dywdd hmwpb a?dwqd axwr rma mdqd anya abtk almtnd awh qdz nyxa arbg 16

ew?yl wdxad

adh at?m?tb asp hl awh tyaw nme awh anmd ljm 17

hywg hlk d?ataw htesm nm trptaw aera le yhwpa le lpnw atyjxd arga nm atyrq hl anqd wnh 18

md tyrwq hmgrwt yhwtyad amd lqx artad hn?lb yh atyrq tyrqta ankhw ml?rwab nyrmed nwhlkl tedyta adh yhw 19

nyrxa bsn ht?m?tw hb awhn al rwmew abrx awht hrydd arwmzmd arpsb ryg bytk 20

ew?y nrm nyle qpnw le hbd hlk anbz anhb nme wwhd arbg nylh nm dxl lykh yh aylw 21

htmyqd adhs nme awhn whd ntwl nm qltsad amwyl amde nnxwyd htydwmem nm pqad 22

aytmlw swjswy ymt?ad ab?rb arqtmd pswyl nyrt wmyqaw 23

nwhyrt nylh nm tna abgd anya dx awx lkd atwblbd edy ayrm tna wrma wyls dkw 24

hrtal hl lzand adwhy qrp hnmd atwxyl?w at?m?td asp lbqn whd 25

axyl? rsedx me ynmtaw aytml tqlsw asp wymraw 26

The numbers at the end of each line are verse numbers. This is Acts, chapter one. Pretty exciting, huh?

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HEY, HEY HEY Alfakat Watch your mouth about so. ca. I happen to like it in hell er I mean so. calli. and yes I only live about 40 minutes from Anaheim Stadium.....Yea Angels, Double yea DODGERS.....BBBooooooo the hated giants lol

All kidding aside I heard about the harvest crusade a couple of weeks ago and thought about going, but forgot until I saw it in here. I hear its a really big thing and they do it every year I think. I also heard it was alot of fun.....like we used to have at the rock a long long time ago!!!!!

Dovey....proud owner of two low riders...Dovey's Doxies...... Dovey

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QQ,

That's like a non-Italian speaker reading an untranslated script of La Boheme and saying, "Beautiful, huh?"

The beauty is in the music and the performances, not merely in the language.

The Passion seeks to transcend our inability to understand the words being spoken, communicating its message through powerful images and a story with which we are all familiar.

You strike me as the kind of guy who would b-and moan about the script to a silent movie.

Fascinating, huh?

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Originally posted by Rafael 1969:

QQ,

That's like a non-Italian speaker reading an untranslated script of La Boheme and saying, "Beautiful, huh?"

The beauty is in the music and the performances, not merely in the language.

The Passion seeks to transcend our inability to understand the words being spoken, communicating its message through powerful images and a story with which we are all familiar.

Now, you strike me as the kind of guy who would b-and moan about the script to a silent movie.

Fascinating, huh?


Your analogy is incorrect. You are comparing apples to horses of a different color, pal.

The point, Rafael, is that dialog adds something. I like the idea of the Aramaic, and I might like to see it first without subtitles. But I would also like to know what is being said. Words without meaning are very much like meaningless words, Rafael. You should know that, being a journalist, sort of.

You strike me as the kind of guy who would call somebody else the kind of guy who would b- and moan, without the faintest understanding of what he is TALKING ABOUT!

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And thanks for the lecture on beauty. I'll file it under "P" for profound thoughts to ponder, when I run out of my own.

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QQ...

Where'd you get that?

EVERYONE knows "qltsad" is spelled "qltsOd"!

You need a better source.

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Yo' Mama!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Of course dialogue adds something. But when the artist makes a decision to pull dialogue from the understanding of the audience, it doesn't mean something's been taken away. It means he's appealing to other faculties of your mind.

Your mind does have other faculties, doesn't it? Or do you need everything spelled out for you?

Hey, I don't think those guys with the hammers and nails are terribly fond of that Y'shua character.

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Words without meaning are very much like meaningless words, Rafael. You should know that, being a journalist, sort of.

First, the fact that you don't know the meaning of certain words does not make those words meaningless. It makes you unaware of their meaning.

Second, what's with the personal attack, dummy?

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now i haven't seen the movie "the passion"

i posted the one pic i could find

i'm leery about seeing it because i think it's going to be very graphic and sad.... and it might make me feel guilty for what happened to jesus

i just want to say, i did not do anything to him, i wasn't there, i did not mean for anything bad to happen to him, so if mr. gibson wants me to feel like crap, then i don't like that. if it helps people, fine..... that remains to be seen......

see, i know about these catholics and their guilt trips.... icon_wink.gif;)-->

plus if anyone is to blame, it's God.... he set the whoooooooooole thing up, did he not ?

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Funny Raf icon_biggrin.gif:D-->

I believe it is the sins of mankind(that includes us)that put the stripes on his back. In other words,if mankind had not sinned, Jesus would not have had to be crucified. But remember, He did not have to do it. He chose to do it--because He loved us.

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now let me tell you something, my friend chwester, i was foreordained to sin...... that is not a choice

however, i believe in jesus christ as my lord and savior....

and another thing..... i am so tired of the guilt thing...

you know what ? you talk to God and i'll talk to God..... let HIM decide

but i don't need a movie to make me feel like sheet

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someone (not directed at anyone) tell ME the difference between being MOVED by something and being made to feel the BLAME about something

okay ?

tanks

and i'm not laying any blame on mel gibson... not yet anyway, in fact, his heart might be in the right place (wayword wayword boing boing boing)

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