I had a very interesting stop at HQ

[waysider]

1 hour ago, Nathan_Jr said:

I believe the counterclockwise method Waysider mentioned is explained in the AC.

Haha! No, that's something Jr. High School girls used to do at pajama parties when I was a kid. The ghost of Mary Worth is supposed to appear before you in the mirror.

[Charity]

3 minutes ago, JoyfulSoul said:

I don't know if I should laugh or cry, Charity?

I appreciate your kind concern.  So, when I wrote about those people talking about their out of body experiences, you don't think that's real either?

When it comes to the supernatural realm, I'm long gone out there. I've experienced a lot, but I've heard a lot more and frankly, I'm jealous.  Take Will, for instance, I believe every word:

 

I don't know if twi was heavily into these incredible (as in impossible to believe) "personal" encounters with Jesus and angels, but I do know that many of the people and ministries you've mentioned before have claimed the most ridiculous of them. 

"Seek and you shall find" can also be known as bias confirmation.  Would telling you to keep a skeptical approach when looking at these unprovable claims be of any use?

[Nathan_Jr]

10 minutes ago, waysider said:

Haha! No, that's something Jr. High School girls used to do at pajama parties when I was a kid. The ghost of Mary Worth is supposed to appear before you in the mirror.

Check it again. Re-search the transcripts. It's there.

If it's not in the '71 or '79 transcripts, it's in another one. It may be lost or hidden. But I believe one day it we'll find it, along with those ancient manuscripts needed to prove other asserted claims.

[JoyfulSoul]

10 minutes ago, Charity said:

Would telling you to keep a skeptical approach when looking at these unprovable claims be of any use?

I began as a college atheist 45 years ago.  I'm long gone.  Over the edge gone.  Unreachable.  Forever lost.

If we ever enforce a complete atheist, anti-supernatural society, take me first, drag me around back and shoot me.

 

[waysider]

16 minutes ago, Nathan_Jr said:

Check it again. Re-search the transcripts. It's there.

If it's not in the '71 or '79 transcripts, it's in another one. It may be lost or hidden. But I believe one day it we'll find it, along with those ancient manuscripts needed to prove other asserted claims.

I wish you could see it in the aboriginal. It's a dandy!

[Charity]

On 5/7/2025 at 11:08 AM, modcat5 said:

Lots of people here are Christians. Lots of people are not. Oldiesman, WordWolf, Allan are believers, though they probably disagree with each other on an issue or two. Chasity, StayedTooLong and I (Raf) are atheist. We try (and often fail) to confine our skepticism to the Atheism subforum in Matters of Faith.

 

Just in case someone might read "Chasity" as a misspelling of Chastity and think such a person exists on GSC (like I did at first ), I now recognize you meant me.  Also, Chastity would have been an unusual, though interesting, name to give oneself .

[Charity]

53 minutes ago, Charity said:

The are NO SUCH THING as devil spirits.  You learned about them while in twi and this explains why you thought of one when LCM looked at you with all the pride and evil that were behind those eyes of his.  Being involved with the other ministries you've mentioned only cemented your belief in demons because they are steeped in teaching about them and falsely claiming to rebuke them. 

Christianity is a fear-based doctrine that ministries/religions feed off of and become rich from because of the hold this doctrine has on keeping people in line.  If you want to be free of having to cope with such a mythical being as an evil spirit, start deconstructing from what the bible teaches about them.  Begin with the whole concept of the fall of Lucifer and then go straight to the most inane story of the serpent with Adam and Eve in the garden whereby all mankind supposedly inherited an evil and sinful nature and Satan became the god of this world.

I sincerely hope you do.

Pardon me for including my atheistic comments on this thread in response to Joyful Soul's disconcerting post about dealing with a demonic transference between LCM and himself.  If there is any interest in discussion this topic, I will start a thread in the Matters of Faith forum.

[Nathan_Jr]

Thomas was skeptical. Because Thomas was skeptical, he was given a spiritual awareness not given to the others. The others had to believe. Thomas found out.

[Charity]

39 minutes ago, JoyfulSoul said:

I began as a college atheist 45 years ago.  I'm long gone.  Over the edge gone.  Unreachable.  Forever lost.

If we ever enforce a complete atheist, anti-supernatural society, take me first, drag me around back and shoot me.

 

I have started a thread called "A Complete atheist, anti-supernatural society" in the Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith sub forum if anyone wants to discuss the above.