"We know, but we'd rather be called a cult than a religion any day"
me: I heard you are very controlling of people's lives.
"Well if by controlling you mean we love you and take care of you and help you have a live better than abundant, then yes, call it controlling if you want"
me: I heard you can't buy a house in TWI.
"Why have a house to tie you down? You can't move fast and far with God if you are spending time maintaining it, then selling it when He asks you to move to a mountain top at a moments notice. He'll look right past you and go with the one that is more faithful and a better steward of their finances"
can you tell me details about lawsuits againt the way international over the last few years ?
i hear the current president and the ex-president's wife knew all about certain "goings-on"
how come the ex-president lives in one city and his wife lives at the headquarters of the organization ? don't most christian married couples and families live together ?
"Why did your current pres allow the former pres to assault women? After all, she admitted that she had knowledge." No coughing, no spitting or ahems.. I think they would run screaming in the night.
me: Can I borrow one of those books you keep talking about?
TWIts: Ummm, no. We found that people, even with good intentions, borrow things and don't return them. You can buy your own at the next limb meeting, though. They always have a bookstore open. In fact we'll be pushing all sorts of products at the limb meeting, so bring lots of money.
A. Yes, but only if you attend at least three times a week, as well as all branch meetings, study sessions, "fun" nights, and classes. Then after forcing you to come to everything, we will restrict what you can come to if you don't meet our standards in your life (i.e clean house, no debt, kids never bratty or misbehaved, teens never sullen, over 10% of income give to us etc.)
So, yes you may freely avail yourself of our fellowships.
me: I am going to be going on vacation for a week at Yellowstone National Park, sooo see ya when i get back, okay?
wayscumbags: what? you need to notify the leadership of the state, or states of where you are going to be visiting. You need to check in with US, at LEAST, everyday, if not EVERY HOUR. Not only do you need to check in with US, you need to check in with every limb coordinator in EVERY state you travel through, and ESPECIALLY when you get to Yellowstone, you need to send EVERYONE faxes of your exact location. Not only that, we ALL need a copy of your itinerary, at least a WEEK before you go, so we ALL can apporve this little,, um, trip. Why exactly are going anyway? We really need to use YOUR house for the next foundational class. YOU really need to plan better, and give us more notice, like a year.....
"Lets see. You claim that your bible "ministry" is 60+ years old. How come it took you that long to figure out that adultery and beastiality are wrong?"
Thelema We only ask for all this information because we care about you. If something happened to you, wouldn't you want us to know where you are? Wouldn't you want to be able to contact someone to help you? We know you don't talk to most of your family any more since they woke up and left...errrr...have turned their back on God and you really can't trust the ones left to take care of you like WE can. Just fax that itinerary and your planned route to me by end of day, okay?
JustThinking - God talks about the remnant, that's a very small group. It's hard to be faithful and to stand for God in our day and time. Most people just aren't strong enough or they get lured away by the riches of the world. Even all the believers in the NT left Paul at one time.
We're never going to see a huge number of truly faithful people. Most people don't really want to know the truth and fewer want to live it. If you're more concerned about numbers than you are God and THE TRUTH, then church might be a better place for you. Of course, if you go to church after having had the opportunity to learn THE TRUTH, we'll pray for you since you're turning your back on God and the one true household who lives in his favor and under his protection.
Mr. H We have never openly condoned either of those. We have no policy on these things......So, how bout that new song the Singing Ladies performed last week? ;)-->
Hey, they oughta hire some of you guys. You can definitely do a better job than ole Rico. He'd try harder, but the three servings of shinola he gets a day must be finally taking its toll.
You'd think he'd come up with something new and original. Even the innies must be tired of hearing "from peas to garden vegetables we always inform our vegetables of what they need to know.. etc.."
You forgot the response to the question "Why is this cult so small?"...
"Many are called to God but few answer his call. Those who answer are the Household of the Prevailing Word. Those in the Household who have the discipline to live the present truth that we teach are called 'disciples'. It is the disciples of the household that bring it its strenth and the household is where protection from the adversay can be found. If you are outside the protection of the household, the walls of Zion, then you will be where there is only weaping and gnashing of teeth..."
...boy, doesn't that just make you want to jump ranks! YUCK!
I forgot the "disciple" and weaping and gnashing of teeth parth. Man, I missed an opportunity to launch into a diatribe about limud and binding up the word or eating it or something like that.... :D-->
Q. How do you respond to the reports of those in leadership pressuring women to have abortions when they actually wanted to give birth?
A. Where did you hear that? That never happened. Our women are free to choose to start a family. They are also free to choose to serve God. The choice is theirs.
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me: I heard you're a cult. Is that true?
"We know, but we'd rather be called a cult than a religion any day"
me: I heard you are very controlling of people's lives.
"Well if by controlling you mean we love you and take care of you and help you have a live better than abundant, then yes, call it controlling if you want"
me: I heard you can't buy a house in TWI.
"Why have a house to tie you down? You can't move fast and far with God if you are spending time maintaining it, then selling it when He asks you to move to a mountain top at a moments notice. He'll look right past you and go with the one that is more faithful and a better steward of their finances"
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me: Why does your class cost money?
TWIt: It doesn't cost anything for the class - but there's a minimum required donation.
me: Why is there a "minimum required donation"?
TWIt: If you don't make a commitment you won't get the full value of the class.
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Me. "What do you have to say about greasespot?" Them.. "well, ahem , ahem.."
"What did you do to .... off so many people?" "ahem, cough cough"
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can you tell me details about lawsuits againt the way international over the last few years ?
i hear the current president and the ex-president's wife knew all about certain "goings-on"
how come the ex-president lives in one city and his wife lives at the headquarters of the organization ? don't most christian married couples and families live together ?
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Ham
"How many women did your former president have sex with?" "Ahemmm, humm, cough cough spit"
"well, we'll get back to you."
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excathedra
how does your organization feel about homosexuals?
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excathedra
am i required to give money to your organization if i join ?
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"Why did your current pres allow the former pres to assault women? After all, she admitted that she had knowledge." No coughing, no spitting or ahems.. I think they would run screaming in the night.
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Belle
me: Do I have to take your classes in order to keep coming to your meetings?
TWIts: No, of course not. You're welcome to come as long as you like. We don't require that.
me: Great. Can you tell me the answer to this question I have about the Bible?
TWIts: That's covered in the class. You should really take the class if you want to know about that subject.
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me: Can I borrow one of those books you keep talking about?
TWIts: Ummm, no. We found that people, even with good intentions, borrow things and don't return them. You can buy your own at the next limb meeting, though. They always have a bookstore open. In fact we'll be pushing all sorts of products at the limb meeting, so bring lots of money.
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Q. Can I freely avail myself of your fellowships?
A. Yes, but only if you attend at least three times a week, as well as all branch meetings, study sessions, "fun" nights, and classes. Then after forcing you to come to everything, we will restrict what you can come to if you don't meet our standards in your life (i.e clean house, no debt, kids never bratty or misbehaved, teens never sullen, over 10% of income give to us etc.)
So, yes you may freely avail yourself of our fellowships.
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me: I am going to be going on vacation for a week at Yellowstone National Park, sooo see ya when i get back, okay?
wayscumbags: what? you need to notify the leadership of the state, or states of where you are going to be visiting. You need to check in with US, at LEAST, everyday, if not EVERY HOUR. Not only do you need to check in with US, you need to check in with every limb coordinator in EVERY state you travel through, and ESPECIALLY when you get to Yellowstone, you need to send EVERYONE faxes of your exact location. Not only that, we ALL need a copy of your itinerary, at least a WEEK before you go, so we ALL can apporve this little,, um, trip. Why exactly are going anyway? We really need to use YOUR house for the next foundational class. YOU really need to plan better, and give us more notice, like a year.....
sound familiar??
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have a great trip !
call me from every rest stop please
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Q. Why have so many people left The Way?
A. People have freewill choice to stay as long as they want. We're thankful for the time they're here.
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I can actually still hear these answers in my head! And almost every one came up during my time in The Way Irrational.
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Ham
"Lets see. You claim that your bible "ministry" is 60+ years old. How come it took you that long to figure out that adultery and beastiality are wrong?"
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Thelema We only ask for all this information because we care about you. If something happened to you, wouldn't you want us to know where you are? Wouldn't you want to be able to contact someone to help you? We know you don't talk to most of your family any more since they woke up and left...errrr...have turned their back on God and you really can't trust the ones left to take care of you like WE can. Just fax that itinerary and your planned route to me by end of day, okay?
JustThinking - God talks about the remnant, that's a very small group. It's hard to be faithful and to stand for God in our day and time. Most people just aren't strong enough or they get lured away by the riches of the world. Even all the believers in the NT left Paul at one time.
We're never going to see a huge number of truly faithful people. Most people don't really want to know the truth and fewer want to live it. If you're more concerned about numbers than you are God and THE TRUTH, then church might be a better place for you. Of course, if you go to church after having had the opportunity to learn THE TRUTH, we'll pray for you since you're turning your back on God and the one true household who lives in his favor and under his protection.
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Belle
Mr. H We have never openly condoned either of those. We have no policy on these things......So, how bout that new song the Singing Ladies performed last week?
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Ham
Hey, they oughta hire some of you guys. You can definitely do a better job than ole Rico. He'd try harder, but the three servings of shinola he gets a day must be finally taking its toll.
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You'd think he'd come up with something new and original. Even the innies must be tired of hearing "from peas to garden vegetables we always inform our vegetables of what they need to know.. etc.."
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Belle --
You forgot the response to the question "Why is this cult so small?"...
"Many are called to God but few answer his call. Those who answer are the Household of the Prevailing Word. Those in the Household who have the discipline to live the present truth that we teach are called 'disciples'. It is the disciples of the household that bring it its strenth and the household is where protection from the adversay can be found. If you are outside the protection of the household, the walls of Zion, then you will be where there is only weaping and gnashing of teeth..."
...boy, doesn't that just make you want to jump ranks! YUCK!
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Belle
Chas, we were DEFINITELY in WAAAAYYYYY TOOO LONG!
I can answer these effen questions in my sleep!
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I forgot the "disciple" and weaping and gnashing of teeth parth. Man, I missed an opportunity to launch into a diatribe about limud and binding up the word or eating it or something like that....
:D-->
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Q. How do you respond to the reports of those in leadership pressuring women to have abortions when they actually wanted to give birth?
A. Where did you hear that? That never happened. Our women are free to choose to start a family. They are also free to choose to serve God. The choice is theirs.
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