seems this would be the time for physically detaining a child. If surrounding the child and defensive measures have been taken and not worked.
Hold that child even if it takes more then one person. No hitting though. Restraint is a 2 way street. Staying calm and thinking clearly rather then overreacting works better then madness and lashing out from the adults involved.
School mistakes huge burrito for weapon, goes into lockdownThe Associated Press
Updated: 7:43 p.m. ET April 29, 2005CLOVIS, N.M. - A call about a possible weapon at a middle school prompted police to put armed officers on rooftops, close nearby streets and lock down the school. All over a giant burrito.
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Someone called authorities Thursday after seeing a boy carrying something long and wrapped into Marshall Junior High.
The drama ended two hours later when the suspicious item was identified as a 30-inch burrito filled with steak, guacamole, lettuce, salsa and jalape?and wrapped inside tin foil and a white T-shirt.
"I didn't know whether to laugh or cry," school Principal Diana Russell said.
State police, Clovis police and the Curry County Sheriff's Department arrived at the school shortly after 8:30 a.m. They searched the premises and determined there was no immediate danger.
Worried parents gather at school
In the meantime, more than 30 parents, alerted by a radio report, descended on the school. Visibly shaken, they gathered around in a semicircle, straining their necks, awaiting news.
"There needs to be security before the kids walk through the door," said Heather Black, whose son attends the school.
After the lockdown was lifted but before the burrito was identified as the culprit, parents pulled 75 students out of school, Russell said.
Russell said the mystery was solved after she brought everyone in the school together in the auditorium to explain what was going on.
"The kid was sitting there as I'm describing this (report of a student with a suspicious package) and he's thinking, 'Oh, my gosh, they're talking about my burrito.'"
Afterward, eighth-grader Michael Morrissey approached her.
‘I think I’m the person they saw’
"He said, 'I think I'm the person they saw,'" Russell said.
The burrito was part of Morrissey's extra-credit assignment to create commercial advertising for a product.
"We had to make up a product and it could have been anything. I made up a restaurant that specialized in oddly large burritos," Morrissey said.
After students heard the description of what police were looking for, he and his friends began to make the connection. He then took the burrito to the office.
"The police saw it and everyone just started laughing. It was a laughter of relief," Morrissey said.
"Oh, and I have a new nickname now. It's Burrito Boy."
I think our entirely country has gone insane. Five year olds in handcuffs - 9 year olds jabbing people with needles - school shut down over giant burrito.
OK - here's one where I have to wonder what the hell the parents were thinking. . .
"CHEYENNE, Wyo. A train operator in Wyoming was able to stop his locomotive just inches from a young brother and sister who were crossing the tracks.
One resident says the six and seven-year-olds had just been dropped off from school Friday when they began wandering their neighborhood and raced toward the tracks.
One train operator was able to warn an oncoming train about the kids and that driver slammed on his brakes.
The resident says the children were "no more than an arm's length from that train" when it stopped.
The father of the children says it doesn't appear as if they understand what took place."
If your kids are too young to understand basic safety concepts like not wandering on a train track - why are they being allowed to roam around unsupervised??????
"CHEYENNE, Wyo. A train operator in Wyoming was able to stop his locomotive just inches from a young brother and sister who were crossing the tracks."
"... If your kids are too young to understand basic safety concepts like not wandering on a train track - why are they being allowed to roam around unsupervised??????"
Sadly it happens all the time now days.
People with kids think that they live in mayberry and that it is safe for their little ones to wander freely, without supervision.
Since returning stateside and to this neighborhood, we has seen drive-by shootings at a park 1 and a half blocks away, and multiple reported 'attempted' child abductions [from the newspaper reports, people driving around will stop and talk to loose children asking them to go for a 'ride'.] At this city park, is the continous presence of a group of teens, who occasionally are busted with drugs or getting into fights. And yet on my block, we have at least three families whose children [ranging from 5 to 10] roam the streets freely without supervision. I commonly have to drive around them as they play in the street, I see many of them out playing as late as midnight; but all without any adult outside or monitoring where the children are.
I hear ya Galen. A little girl was abducted from her grandmother's house, a few blocks from mine, and killed. We have two convicted pedophiles living up the street - one a repeat offender. And we have a corner store that always has gangs of teenagers hanging out in front of it. Yet I see kids as young as 5 and 6 riding their bikes in the street, totally unspervised.
As for mine - we fenced off the back yard and put locks on the gates. If the kids want to go to the park or go for a bike ride, an adult goes with them.
I have also (thanks ExC) begun talking to the kids about the dangers of our society, and we talk through the different tactics pedophiles will use to try and lure them away. We discuss what if scenarios and teach the kids what to do should one occur.
One of the really interesting things I've learned is that it is usually not the stranger your kids have to fear, but the people they know. When we teach our kids they should NEVER talk to strangers we give ourselves a false sense of security and may actually hinder a child's ability to seek help when they really need it. Instead it is better to teach them which adults are safe to seek help from and to teach them the tactics people will use to tear down their natural insticts and boundaries.
"I hear ya Galen. A little girl was abducted from her grandmother's house, a few blocks from mine, and killed. We have two convicted pedophiles living up the street - one a repeat offender. And we have a corner store that always has gangs of teenagers hanging out in front of it. Yet I see kids as young as 5 and 6 riding their bikes in the street, totally unspervised."
It did not seem as bad, back in 1990 when we bought this place.
But since then we have had two indian casinos built, both within 5 miles, both trying for the title of 'biggest casino in the World' [Foxwoods and Mohegan-Sun]. They both ship in a lot of workers from around the nation, from all of the territorys [Puerto Rico, Guam, etc] and from Europe.
"As for mine - we fenced off the back yard and put locks on the gates. If the kids want to go to the park or go for a bike ride, an adult goes with them."
LOL
We had so much foot traffic through our backyard, you would have thought it was a sidewalk connecting our back property-line with the sidewalk in front of the building.
The year after we bought it, they built a 200-unit apartment building on the hill directly behind us. The city even "re-drew" our back property line to accomodate their parking lot. :-(
In 2002, I built a row of 'hunting blinds' along our rear property line, and installed a row of beehives there. They can not be seen from the parking lot of the 200-unit complex, but they fill the wooded area with lots of bees. Which cuts down on the foot-traffic some.
I also got a large german shepherd and made a 100foot 'run' behind the house that goes from one side-propertyline entirely across my property to the opposing side-propertyline. She has a big 'effect'. She broke her run once to trap 3 teens in my parking lot 'looking' at my bike. Another time she broke her run and treed a kid at 3am, the police were already on the street chasing the kid, but it was our dog that caught him.
We live on a corner where two streets meet, both streets end at this corner, so the traffic in fact has to stop and make a right angle turn. Since returning stateside we have had 2 different cars, pull into our parking lot while being chased by police [both times it was a teen stealing a car, both times they turned into my lot thinking it might have a rear escape route].
If you continued straight on our street, the path of where the road would go [if it were to continue which it does not] is a large rocky knoll. But at night looking at it from the street you can't really tell exactly what it is and the city has not marked it with any signs. So I have laid down two 'tracks' of concrete, so in the dark it kind of looks like a vehicle path. I am waiting to see if the next kid driving a stolen car, will hit theses 'tracks' thinking it will give him escape. [of course it will just pile his vehicle into a large rock face].
"I have also (thanks ExC) begun talking to the kids about the dangers of our society, and we talk through the different tactics pedophiles will use to try and lure them away. We discuss what if scenarios and teach the kids what to do should one occur."
That is a good idea. When we had all the foster-children we did that too. Often.
"One of the really interesting things I've learned is that it is usually not the stranger your kids have to fear, but the people they know. When we teach our kids they should NEVER talk to strangers we give ourselves a false sense of security and may actually hinder a child's ability to seek help when they really need it. Instead it is better to teach them which adults are safe to seek help from and to teach them the tactics people will use to tear down their natural insticts and boundaries."
Last year our city joined a program for that very thing, it envolves the city's Public Utility men. A few of them went into each elementary school classroom with one wearing the big dog suit "McGruff". They taught the children a 'Secret' call-sign to use if they need help, and that every Public Utility truck has a police-capable radio, and all city employees are now 'trained' to respond when they see this 'secret' call-sign, should any child use it. Our children ate it up. They were so proud that they knew the 'secret' call-sign, and everytime they saw a Public Utilitys truck they just had to wave to their buddys.
Of course the 'secret' call-sign, was to yell "HELP" while waving both arms up and down over your head. But the kids loved it.
Pretty much the same on this side of the world too.
Seems to be Paedophiles etc.. on every street corner.Careful, don't take 'natural justice' into your own hands though if you catch one doing something he/she shouldn't be doing.
The law is on their side.
Sheesh, almost can't blame the Muslims for thinking the 'western world is evil'!!
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seems this would be the time for physically detaining a child. If surrounding the child and defensive measures have been taken and not worked.
Hold that child even if it takes more then one person. No hitting though. Restraint is a 2 way street. Staying calm and thinking clearly rather then overreacting works better then madness and lashing out from the adults involved.
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its a mad mad world . . . .
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School mistakes huge burrito for weapon, goes into lockdownThe Associated Press
Updated: 7:43 p.m. ET April 29, 2005CLOVIS, N.M. - A call about a possible weapon at a middle school prompted police to put armed officers on rooftops, close nearby streets and lock down the school. All over a giant burrito.
advertisement
Someone called authorities Thursday after seeing a boy carrying something long and wrapped into Marshall Junior High.
The drama ended two hours later when the suspicious item was identified as a 30-inch burrito filled with steak, guacamole, lettuce, salsa and jalape?and wrapped inside tin foil and a white T-shirt.
"I didn't know whether to laugh or cry," school Principal Diana Russell said.
State police, Clovis police and the Curry County Sheriff's Department arrived at the school shortly after 8:30 a.m. They searched the premises and determined there was no immediate danger.
Worried parents gather at school
In the meantime, more than 30 parents, alerted by a radio report, descended on the school. Visibly shaken, they gathered around in a semicircle, straining their necks, awaiting news.
"There needs to be security before the kids walk through the door," said Heather Black, whose son attends the school.
After the lockdown was lifted but before the burrito was identified as the culprit, parents pulled 75 students out of school, Russell said.
Russell said the mystery was solved after she brought everyone in the school together in the auditorium to explain what was going on.
"The kid was sitting there as I'm describing this (report of a student with a suspicious package) and he's thinking, 'Oh, my gosh, they're talking about my burrito.'"
Afterward, eighth-grader Michael Morrissey approached her.
‘I think I’m the person they saw’
"He said, 'I think I'm the person they saw,'" Russell said.
The burrito was part of Morrissey's extra-credit assignment to create commercial advertising for a product.
"We had to make up a product and it could have been anything. I made up a restaurant that specialized in oddly large burritos," Morrissey said.
After students heard the description of what police were looking for, he and his friends began to make the connection. He then took the burrito to the office.
"The police saw it and everyone just started laughing. It was a laughter of relief," Morrissey said.
"Oh, and I have a new nickname now. It's Burrito Boy."
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That's funny Abi...never even made the news here...
probably too embarrasing
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I think our entirely country has gone insane. Five year olds in handcuffs - 9 year olds jabbing people with needles - school shut down over giant burrito.
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OK - here's one where I have to wonder what the hell the parents were thinking. . .
"CHEYENNE, Wyo. A train operator in Wyoming was able to stop his locomotive just inches from a young brother and sister who were crossing the tracks.
One resident says the six and seven-year-olds had just been dropped off from school Friday when they began wandering their neighborhood and raced toward the tracks.
One train operator was able to warn an oncoming train about the kids and that driver slammed on his brakes.
The resident says the children were "no more than an arm's length from that train" when it stopped.
The father of the children says it doesn't appear as if they understand what took place."
If your kids are too young to understand basic safety concepts like not wandering on a train track - why are they being allowed to roam around unsupervised??????
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Abigail:
"CHEYENNE, Wyo. A train operator in Wyoming was able to stop his locomotive just inches from a young brother and sister who were crossing the tracks."
"... If your kids are too young to understand basic safety concepts like not wandering on a train track - why are they being allowed to roam around unsupervised??????"
Sadly it happens all the time now days.
People with kids think that they live in mayberry and that it is safe for their little ones to wander freely, without supervision.
Since returning stateside and to this neighborhood, we has seen drive-by shootings at a park 1 and a half blocks away, and multiple reported 'attempted' child abductions [from the newspaper reports, people driving around will stop and talk to loose children asking them to go for a 'ride'.] At this city park, is the continous presence of a group of teens, who occasionally are busted with drugs or getting into fights. And yet on my block, we have at least three families whose children [ranging from 5 to 10] roam the streets freely without supervision. I commonly have to drive around them as they play in the street, I see many of them out playing as late as midnight; but all without any adult outside or monitoring where the children are.
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I hear ya Galen. A little girl was abducted from her grandmother's house, a few blocks from mine, and killed. We have two convicted pedophiles living up the street - one a repeat offender. And we have a corner store that always has gangs of teenagers hanging out in front of it. Yet I see kids as young as 5 and 6 riding their bikes in the street, totally unspervised.
As for mine - we fenced off the back yard and put locks on the gates. If the kids want to go to the park or go for a bike ride, an adult goes with them.
I have also (thanks ExC) begun talking to the kids about the dangers of our society, and we talk through the different tactics pedophiles will use to try and lure them away. We discuss what if scenarios and teach the kids what to do should one occur.
One of the really interesting things I've learned is that it is usually not the stranger your kids have to fear, but the people they know. When we teach our kids they should NEVER talk to strangers we give ourselves a false sense of security and may actually hinder a child's ability to seek help when they really need it. Instead it is better to teach them which adults are safe to seek help from and to teach them the tactics people will use to tear down their natural insticts and boundaries.
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Abigail:
"I hear ya Galen. A little girl was abducted from her grandmother's house, a few blocks from mine, and killed. We have two convicted pedophiles living up the street - one a repeat offender. And we have a corner store that always has gangs of teenagers hanging out in front of it. Yet I see kids as young as 5 and 6 riding their bikes in the street, totally unspervised."
It did not seem as bad, back in 1990 when we bought this place.
But since then we have had two indian casinos built, both within 5 miles, both trying for the title of 'biggest casino in the World' [Foxwoods and Mohegan-Sun]. They both ship in a lot of workers from around the nation, from all of the territorys [Puerto Rico, Guam, etc] and from Europe.
"As for mine - we fenced off the back yard and put locks on the gates. If the kids want to go to the park or go for a bike ride, an adult goes with them."
LOL
We had so much foot traffic through our backyard, you would have thought it was a sidewalk connecting our back property-line with the sidewalk in front of the building.
The year after we bought it, they built a 200-unit apartment building on the hill directly behind us. The city even "re-drew" our back property line to accomodate their parking lot. :-(
In 2002, I built a row of 'hunting blinds' along our rear property line, and installed a row of beehives there. They can not be seen from the parking lot of the 200-unit complex, but they fill the wooded area with lots of bees. Which cuts down on the foot-traffic some.
I also got a large german shepherd and made a 100foot 'run' behind the house that goes from one side-propertyline entirely across my property to the opposing side-propertyline. She has a big 'effect'. She broke her run once to trap 3 teens in my parking lot 'looking' at my bike. Another time she broke her run and treed a kid at 3am, the police were already on the street chasing the kid, but it was our dog that caught him.
We live on a corner where two streets meet, both streets end at this corner, so the traffic in fact has to stop and make a right angle turn. Since returning stateside we have had 2 different cars, pull into our parking lot while being chased by police [both times it was a teen stealing a car, both times they turned into my lot thinking it might have a rear escape route].
If you continued straight on our street, the path of where the road would go [if it were to continue which it does not] is a large rocky knoll. But at night looking at it from the street you can't really tell exactly what it is and the city has not marked it with any signs. So I have laid down two 'tracks' of concrete, so in the dark it kind of looks like a vehicle path. I am waiting to see if the next kid driving a stolen car, will hit theses 'tracks' thinking it will give him escape. [of course it will just pile his vehicle into a large rock face].
"I have also (thanks ExC) begun talking to the kids about the dangers of our society, and we talk through the different tactics pedophiles will use to try and lure them away. We discuss what if scenarios and teach the kids what to do should one occur."
That is a good idea. When we had all the foster-children we did that too. Often.
"One of the really interesting things I've learned is that it is usually not the stranger your kids have to fear, but the people they know. When we teach our kids they should NEVER talk to strangers we give ourselves a false sense of security and may actually hinder a child's ability to seek help when they really need it. Instead it is better to teach them which adults are safe to seek help from and to teach them the tactics people will use to tear down their natural insticts and boundaries."
Last year our city joined a program for that very thing, it envolves the city's Public Utility men. A few of them went into each elementary school classroom with one wearing the big dog suit "McGruff". They taught the children a 'Secret' call-sign to use if they need help, and that every Public Utility truck has a police-capable radio, and all city employees are now 'trained' to respond when they see this 'secret' call-sign, should any child use it. Our children ate it up. They were so proud that they knew the 'secret' call-sign, and everytime they saw a Public Utilitys truck they just had to wave to their buddys.
Of course the 'secret' call-sign, was to yell "HELP" while waving both arms up and down over your head. But the kids loved it.
:-)
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Pretty much the same on this side of the world too.
Seems to be Paedophiles etc.. on every street corner.Careful, don't take 'natural justice' into your own hands though if you catch one doing something he/she shouldn't be doing.
The law is on their side.
Sheesh, almost can't blame the Muslims for thinking the 'western world is evil'!!
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Another 5 year old criminal handcuffed.....
www.courttv.com/news/2005/0505/handcuff_ap.html
I feel so much safer now......
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