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Sorry, Sir. I'm all out of Lo Shantas. Could I interest you in previously owned Lo Maka Seetay, perhaps? Hmmmm... it hasn't been smoked in has it?2 points
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46. Establishes a shipwreck of the family faith mindset that prevents cross organizational collaboration with other Christians. 47. Teaches a Christ in you concept that resembles an Iron Man suit - extrapolating a simple metaphor into a problematic doctrine of control as opposed to submitting one’s self to a Savior and Lord.2 points
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27. Creates DIS-harmony in the home. A. Causes friction and division between family members. B. Allows and expects secrets between family members. C. Promotes infidelity. D. Promotes coercive control. E. Promotes abortion. F. Permits rape.2 points
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Have you ever been around someone for practically your whole life and was so comfortable with them and yet you’ve never interacted with that person. And I never expected to be profoundly moved by such a person and from beyond the grave at that! I was sitting on a bench in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I was taking a mini-break from our 5 hour self-guided tour. My wife continued to stroll about enthralled by the exhibits of personal instruments, iconic clothes, handwritten lyrics on a piece of paper, etc. …I’m seated about 3 feet from John Lennon’s mellotron A scrolling slide show of quotes from each of the Beatles is on a monitor in front of me. This one by John Lennon pops up: My role in society, or any artist’s or poet’s role, is to try and express what we feel. Not to tell people how to feel. Not as a preacher, not as a leader, but as a reflection of us all. John Lennon It was a different picture than the one I have here – I used this one here cuz it’s the only one I found online – so this is just a visual aid to simulate the experience. Now mind you this was a scrolling slide show. I’ve never heard that quote before. It was such a fleeting revelatory moment for me. It wasn’t like “I’ve got a special purpose!" …It was just a realization that communicating my feelings is what it’s all about…yes…wait…was that it?...I think so…I waited for the slide show to cycle through again to it...yes – that’s it…I fixated on those words – letting them wash over some petrified part of my mind that used to think it was my mission in life to "teach" everyone about the greatness of PFAL. Ah wait – I have an iPhone! I waited for the quote to come around again – and I captured it on my personal electronic device…Henceforth and forever more one of the purposes of my life is to convey my honest feelings through music, art, interacting with family and friends and even Grease Spotting.1 point
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56. Because someone who threw out all their biblical research materials still wants to be called "Dr".1 point
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49 Establishes a church in the home pattern where zero money is invested in the local community and all money flows to hq. 50 Church in home establishes expectation of people paying that is their church and they act entitled. Expectation to fellowhip coordinators to accept things into their home the top Pharisees would never accept into their own homes.1 point
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Sorry, Sir. I'm all out of Lo Shantas. Could I interest you in previously owned Lo Maka Seetay, perhaps?1 point
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Well, let's see now. On a typical day, we had a believers' meeting before the 6 AM run, another at breakfast, another at dinner, another at the end of work time, another at night twig, another at end-of-day house meeting..... So,Yeeeaaah...Nope! I don't think there was any discernable lack of "fluency". lo maka seetay, y'all.1 point
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33. Declares students should just read what “the Word” says instead of reading what others said about it - even though PFAL is made up of a lot of stuff that he stole from what others have said about the Bible.1 point
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In essence that is what I heard in the late 1970s while listening to a tape from a Sunday teaching by VPW. As I remember, VPW said that he agreed with the Roman Catholic Church regarding the religious belief that the Pope was the Vicar of Christ. In practical application, while VPW was the leader of TWI, VPW also saw himself as the earthly representative of Christ and as "the teacher" instead of "a teacher", as I remember from the Power for Abundant Living class. However, at least most of and perhaps all of his books don't have that hierarchical and errant teaching.1 point
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https://web.archive.org/web/20030713171917/http://www.livingepistlessociety.org/10Blue2.htm https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/4227-actual-errors-in-pfal/ Here's some optional reading for the curious and those arriving late.1 point
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17. It often contains errors that are the byproduct of pretending that the over 400-years old, obsolete King James Version is authoritative in aiding our understanding, as if the KJV word usage was consistent within itself and consistent with modern usage. Probably the most obvious of those errors was hanging an entire doctrine on the KJV usage of the word "replenish" in Genesis 3, when the Hebrew word from which it was taken should be translated "fill" and not "replenish." However, since this error matched what vpw wanted it to say, he went with it. Furthermore, "throughly" is an archaic word that DOES mean "thoroughly" and there is NO DIFFERENCE between their definitions- even though vpw made up an explanation of their differences. 18. II Peter 1: 20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. =========================== vpw made a big deal out of these verses meaning we aren't to do any "private interpretation"- complete with his own, made-up explanation of what that supposedly meant. However, these verses explained the ORIGIN of the verses- they didn't show up because someone sat in a corner and decided to write something on his own, but with input from God Almighty directing him. There's nothing in them about how we are to approach the Bible. [For those arriving late, I'm just repeating points that were posted over 20 years ago in both examples, and not by me originally.]1 point
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27. victor teaches the LEAST a Christian should be expected to do is tithe - before ANYTHING, tithe. The implication is you are not a Christian if you don't tithe. The tithe is victor's sine qua non of Christian identity. Guilt trips and gas lighting all the way down.1 point
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17. Hyperdispensationalism 18. The spiritual and intellectual retardation required to claim four crucified. 19. Four hours of content held forth over 36 hours.1 point
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15. He disparagingly and erroneously calls Jesus a bastard Jew. 16. He spiritually and physically replaces God's only begotten with YourWalk+Believing+TheBible+ChristInYou. (Boy, oh, boy! I'd hate to be victor on THAT day.)1 point
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Unless one goes beyond what vpw taught, one can't go beyond his insistence that one can't go beyond what one is taught!1 point