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  1. Such a frikkin ego trip, to say that. Though I don't remember it as "the ministry would fail" but more along the lines that "the word of God would be lost" or some such nonsense. Too long ago to be sure. When I heard whatever it was, it was a "Whaaaattttt?" moment - a red flag, really, but one of many I ignored. Immediately forgot about. But then, I had decent, giving, Christian parents as role models. My parents weren't denominational - dad went to the Anglican church, mum to the Methodist (when she could manage to). I couldn't see either of them losing their faith or their love for God. And dad didn't, to the end of his life; and Mum now 91 just gets stronger in her faith. r
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  2. ya know...recycling way ministry books means something else to TWI-Splinter groups
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  3. IIRC, it was around 1953 that he encountered both Leonard's class and Stiles' book (and Leonard and Stiles.) Yes, a decade after that, with him showing no real success in his ministry- at least as HE measured success. Once he encountered Leonard's class and Stiles' book, that changed. He taught a class identical to Leonard's and printed a book identical to Stiles', with later versions of each actually adding changes. What vpw taught was based almost entirely on a mix of what other people taught first- Leonard, Stiles, Bullinger, Kenyon.... Yes, his stealing from Leonard and Stiles was pretty prompt. He turned around within months of exposure to each and made their clones.
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  4. When I got involved in the mid-70s.........the pitch was "This PFAL Class has the keys to understanding the Bible, God's Word. Dr. Wierwille has put this class together from decades of researching the Scriptures to help anybody and everyone who wants to receive holy spirit into manifestation and see the power of God in their lives." Like so many things.......the messaging was evolving. But back then, in my state........there was major emphasis on receiving holy spirit into manifestation so that I could have the power of God when I needed it most. Very little emphasis was put on wierwille's "1942 promise"..........but on the fact that wierwille had researched the Word of God and put it together like no one else. Obviously, in my youth and busy college life.......I never took the time to research wierwille's background and discover the blatant plagiarism nor did I take the time to uncover many, major spiritual truths and works of study by Kenyon, Jones, Bullinger, others, etc. It seems to me.......1) Adulation for Dr. Wierwille was a subtle portion of the end result of the pfal class. Then, when I went to the rock of ages............people would swoon when Dr. Wierwille was near. The mystique of wierwille had engulfed twi. And, for many............it's still there! By 1981-1984........bodyguards were positioned along the roa main stage when wierwille was present. Bodyguards? With ear pieces and covert communication amongst a team of security? Why? Oh, that's right.......the devil spirits were always trying to get to "the man of God." Evolution of Unbridled Adulation.......wierwille was treated like a pharaoh or something. An entourage of servants were at his beck and call. Wierwille basked in the wayworld that he created. He smoked at the head dining room table whenever he wanted. He sipped his Drambuie at night owls or other late night corps meetings. One of those evening sessions, at the Emporia Campus.......wierwille abruptly stated that he wanted all the corps to come back in 20 minutes in their pajamas and bathrobes. And, we did!!!!! Of course, it was seen as "Wow, he just wants to have a casual, fireside get-together with his corps. How cool is that?" To this day......there are people who idolize their memories of wierwille. When GSC discusses serial plagiarism or wierwille's sexual predation......there is vehement pushback from many defenders. Even lots and lots of corps refute these things discussed here at GSC that tarnish their memories of vpw. They never saw or heard this stuff during their corps experience. Martindale? Yes, but not wierwille. Wierwille was a smooth operator. He was the father figure to a displaced youth. Blind trust. He established an inner circle that were fiercely loyal and secret. And, if you couldn't be 1) loyal and 2) secret.......you couldn't be AROUND wierwille.
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  5. I have forgiven myself; I hear it too many times not to listen, from my counselor, male survivor support group, my faith resources, and a few pertinent online pages. I don;t worry about closure with the ex-Way community, or anyone acknowledging this male being sexually assaulted. But I am very active in the general community; my non Way related friend who helped me break my silence also having co founded a national abuse prevention group, and helping me to laugh and smile (That's her job with everybody). But being loosened up (I heard those words specifically used about me) was not a loosening up, or playing around. And of course that loosening up term was one of VPW's.
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