Ham

Well.. I kind of think of it as a model. It is a strange mixture of some eastern philosphy, mathmatics and some Budhism, plus a few other philosophies. At the moment, the model is about the best fit to the world as I see it. So many different opinions, maybe that's why I don't exactly fit in at any one place.. I can usually can find at least one point where I would agree with anybody..

I have a few other theories about some of this.. "ham's theory of light, and the repulsion of the same kind of forces" For what it's worth.. I think we are beings of light, and were once one entity.. now we're fragmented. We long for the "belonginess" we had, but we also desperately need our individuality. I think existence here is a paradox of sorts.. we need the oneness, yet we also require the individuality to exist in this particular life. So there is a repulsion of sorts.. and the repulsion is slightly greater than the attraction. I think the connection people desperately want, they can't truly have.. not in this life. *so ham goes, wearing his protective tin beanie, muttering to himself as he goes..* Well, my tin hat is not inferior to anybody elses here..

hmmm. Well.. perhaps some presented themselves as the family of God because they seek the same stability. Maybe some do so to simply gain control or rulership over others. I think most people can realistically compromise in a limited manner, not unconditionally. I think unconditional love is not a realistic expectation from anyone or anything. I think it is more like a business partnership or agreement. The thing with der vey.. the "partnership" quickly became pretty one sided. I labored, and the real "return" from the root became less and less.. more demands and less performance for their part. I think loy's rants about how we OWED them support, was a demand for unconditional love. Something he himself was not willing to return.

Well.. there is a warped form of stability perhaps. But it is NOT unconditional love. It is love, and stability based not on who you are, but what you believe, and what you DO. There are some pretty bold claims of having "agape" kind of love, but in the end, if you disagree, if you don't perform, you're "outta there". It's false advertising.. the "love bombing" as some call it.. "see? we are the same as FAMILY". A lot of claims have been made for the religion, but personally, I've NEVER seen any love outside of a real "earthly" family that can be considered truly unconditional. At best I think it is a second rate substitute.

Yes. My "extended family" now, is a rather casual, professional relationship with various professors, other professional people. Churches, groups that offer stability, "THE answers", and are rather adamant that they are indeed "right".. I just can't go there.. I think the stability of the beliefs is an illusion.. pretty much think that the connection and stability these groups claim to offer is not real. Maybe real.. but over-rated.

Not only would it repel the invasive attacks of debils, the technically savy "never mix my bread and vegetables" type of limb or region coordinator could now use a cell phone, with full assurance that the radio waves will be reflected, eliminating the unreasonable fear that secretly, the cell phone is cooking their brain tissues..

I needed stability. I lost my father when I was fourteen, lost my mother three years later, and my mom had isolated us from some of the other relatives. My brother was as much a basket case as I was, but he was in a little more stable situation. I really needed stability that a group could offer.. twi just happened to be the wrong place to go. The bait was pretty enticing.. promises of success, abundance.. love..

The guy even sells a book, $12.95.. Perfect "household holiday" gift for your limb coordinator or local leadership..

Hey George.. it's pretty obvious he doesn't. Maybe he can't afford one.. or maybe he just needs a few instructions to get it "right". This might help: For the conscientious do it your selfer.. Or he could borrow mine..

What's kinda really weird.. I believe I knew God before twi.. had a "vacation" of sorts..and found him after leaving.. I don't think I got involved because I was hungry to know God.

I did some things after leaving twi.. I won't tell on a public board.. I've already ruined my reputation as it is. No, not one was illegal.. :)

Happy Birthday! Hope you enjoy your day..

Congratulations! I understand it's a big deal to publish art, at least while you're still alive.. :)

That's at least part of my point. You've been mucking about in kabballah, some other stuff.. it's obvious you've seen "something". While I wouldn't attempt to invalidate it, I would only say that you can't take a piece of the Divine.. and put it in a jar..

Yes. And.. believe it or not.. :) I admired him for it.. Maybe he saw what the organization could really be, or evolve into.. The damn lawsuit does a couple of things.. it gags his critics, and it gags himself.. oh well..

I dunno.. Just from an outsider, looking in the "crystal ball" :) I think MG himself wanted to turn it into a church, something mainstream, believable.. perhaps even reputable. From the few seemingly unrelated ideas that: He wanted to get some kind of REAL master's degree in some kind of legitimate christian context.. bring some kind of REAL legitimacy to the organization. Kinda "conflicted".. with the current board, and especially CURRENT wife's preclivities to aberrations of the paranormal. I think the idea was far too "radical" to the remaining "radicals".. They cite M's "personal problems".. what were they? I would only imagine.. the conflict between him and.. prophetic habits of der dear wife. but that's just my thoughts. And I offer them, no more reputable than the word of a cwazy squirrel.. I think the REAL mistake was to file the lawsuits. As far as CES "constituency", it only dilutes and discredits any claims that he was attempting to make. It marks him as "the enemy". The now "outsider".. doing deals with "the devil" i.e. governemt and legal system. "well, just call JL.. " I really don't think these are the kind of questions he REALLY is thinking of answering. "Well, Ham, we oughter agree on the capitial T Truth.."

Mr. WW.. let me be so bold as to say.. having "seen the light".. why try to attach a certain dogma.. or religion.. or interpretation to it.. you can't really you know. It is, what it is.. people hundreds if not thousands of years ago have seen the same thing.. why try to reclaim the equilibrium you thought you had, when you once thought you had all of the answers.. the path calls.. why not keep moving.. :)

I see little difference from this, and from the doctrines of Crowley's successor. from http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/.../achubbard.html I really don't see how you are trying to do anything really different here..

hmm. or maybe he knows where Jimmy Hoffs IS..

I see our friend every once in a while.. seems happy, doing well. Yeah.. unbelievable. You know, those sycophants had "the world" in their hands..

I dunno.. I think hindsight kinda looks forward.. Some people think it prejudices a person.. I prefer to think it offers wisdom. I can smell these scams a mile away.. probably the same for a lot of people here.

What I wonder.. did he simply "finger" stuff that no one else would bother fighting over? That didn't work with lifted music (old blue sinkalonkda vey). Seems the copyright holders called him on it..

It is rumored he is holed up in a missle silo in Kansas somewhere.. waiting for the pre-determined time to emerge, to triumphantly carry out his mognesses master plan..

praying too..

Liver, liver.. Larry, you should have told them: "For crying out loud! I thought liver was supposed to be used for divination, not eating.." Of course, that may have caused a few more "problems" than it seemingly solved..