Ham

Hmm. Do you really want to ask that question? I can see part of Mr. Snooty Pans point though.. if you are cooking, especially on an electric burner, the 1/16" stuff doesn't have enough thermal mass to even out the extremely hot and cold spots. Your pancakes will have a dark spot that tends to resemble the shape of the burner. By the time you've bought and worn out a dozen or so sets of the cheap stuff, you have spent enough to get something that will last practically forever..

Well, look at the bright side. You didn't encounter the stinging nettle during attendance at a nudist colony..

I think I know how you feel Roy. There are times I also feel compelled to share some things I've thought of, and the possible conclusions or implications of these thoughts, even if they will appear radically different to beliefs of others. If they help somebody, rejoice. If they find them ludicrous, why not laugh with them? Your comparison to a singer is awesome.. we all have a song, and words. We express them, and some of them may find a place in others. Others words certainly have found a place in me.

Why don't I fit in any one place? Well.. The Pentecostalists would accuse me of being possessed, or a spiritist. the spiritualists would think I'm just nuts.. The conservatives think I'm way too liberal on some stuff.. the liberals would have issues with the thought I voted for George Jr. the first time around.. But I could find a point that I would agree with any of the above, just not the same one.. I think.. if anybody has a REAL "monopoly" on God.. it has to be all of us, collectively..

But that is a valid point. Am I merely writing my own religion? Perhaps. If nothing else really works or makes sense to an individual, why not "roll your own"? Does the thought of not being anchored to a particular philosophy or belief really frighten people? I think so..

Well.. I kind of think of it as a model. It is a strange mixture of some eastern philosphy, mathmatics and some Budhism, plus a few other philosophies. At the moment, the model is about the best fit to the world as I see it. So many different opinions, maybe that's why I don't exactly fit in at any one place.. I can usually can find at least one point where I would agree with anybody..

I have a few other theories about some of this.. "ham's theory of light, and the repulsion of the same kind of forces" For what it's worth.. I think we are beings of light, and were once one entity.. now we're fragmented. We long for the "belonginess" we had, but we also desperately need our individuality. I think existence here is a paradox of sorts.. we need the oneness, yet we also require the individuality to exist in this particular life. So there is a repulsion of sorts.. and the repulsion is slightly greater than the attraction. I think the connection people desperately want, they can't truly have.. not in this life. *so ham goes, wearing his protective tin beanie, muttering to himself as he goes..* Well, my tin hat is not inferior to anybody elses here..

hmmm. Well.. perhaps some presented themselves as the family of God because they seek the same stability. Maybe some do so to simply gain control or rulership over others. I think most people can realistically compromise in a limited manner, not unconditionally. I think unconditional love is not a realistic expectation from anyone or anything. I think it is more like a business partnership or agreement. The thing with der vey.. the "partnership" quickly became pretty one sided. I labored, and the real "return" from the root became less and less.. more demands and less performance for their part. I think loy's rants about how we OWED them support, was a demand for unconditional love. Something he himself was not willing to return.

Well.. there is a warped form of stability perhaps. But it is NOT unconditional love. It is love, and stability based not on who you are, but what you believe, and what you DO. There are some pretty bold claims of having "agape" kind of love, but in the end, if you disagree, if you don't perform, you're "outta there". It's false advertising.. the "love bombing" as some call it.. "see? we are the same as FAMILY". A lot of claims have been made for the religion, but personally, I've NEVER seen any love outside of a real "earthly" family that can be considered truly unconditional. At best I think it is a second rate substitute.

Yes. My "extended family" now, is a rather casual, professional relationship with various professors, other professional people. Churches, groups that offer stability, "THE answers", and are rather adamant that they are indeed "right".. I just can't go there.. I think the stability of the beliefs is an illusion.. pretty much think that the connection and stability these groups claim to offer is not real. Maybe real.. but over-rated.

Not only would it repel the invasive attacks of debils, the technically savy "never mix my bread and vegetables" type of limb or region coordinator could now use a cell phone, with full assurance that the radio waves will be reflected, eliminating the unreasonable fear that secretly, the cell phone is cooking their brain tissues..

I needed stability. I lost my father when I was fourteen, lost my mother three years later, and my mom had isolated us from some of the other relatives. My brother was as much a basket case as I was, but he was in a little more stable situation. I really needed stability that a group could offer.. twi just happened to be the wrong place to go. The bait was pretty enticing.. promises of success, abundance.. love..

The guy even sells a book, $12.95.. Perfect "household holiday" gift for your limb coordinator or local leadership..

Hey George.. it's pretty obvious he doesn't. Maybe he can't afford one.. or maybe he just needs a few instructions to get it "right". This might help: For the conscientious do it your selfer.. Or he could borrow mine..

What's kinda really weird.. I believe I knew God before twi.. had a "vacation" of sorts..and found him after leaving.. I don't think I got involved because I was hungry to know God.

I did some things after leaving twi.. I won't tell on a public board.. I've already ruined my reputation as it is. No, not one was illegal.. :)

Happy Birthday! Hope you enjoy your day..

Congratulations! I understand it's a big deal to publish art, at least while you're still alive.. :)

That's at least part of my point. You've been mucking about in kabballah, some other stuff.. it's obvious you've seen "something". While I wouldn't attempt to invalidate it, I would only say that you can't take a piece of the Divine.. and put it in a jar..

Yes. And.. believe it or not.. :) I admired him for it.. Maybe he saw what the organization could really be, or evolve into.. The damn lawsuit does a couple of things.. it gags his critics, and it gags himself.. oh well..

I dunno.. Just from an outsider, looking in the "crystal ball" :) I think MG himself wanted to turn it into a church, something mainstream, believable.. perhaps even reputable. From the few seemingly unrelated ideas that: He wanted to get some kind of REAL master's degree in some kind of legitimate christian context.. bring some kind of REAL legitimacy to the organization. Kinda "conflicted".. with the current board, and especially CURRENT wife's preclivities to aberrations of the paranormal. I think the idea was far too "radical" to the remaining "radicals".. They cite M's "personal problems".. what were they? I would only imagine.. the conflict between him and.. prophetic habits of der dear wife. but that's just my thoughts. And I offer them, no more reputable than the word of a cwazy squirrel.. I think the REAL mistake was to file the lawsuits. As far as CES "constituency", it only dilutes and discredits any claims that he was attempting to make. It marks him as "the enemy". The now "outsider".. doing deals with "the devil" i.e. governemt and legal system. "well, just call JL.. " I really don't think these are the kind of questions he REALLY is thinking of answering. "Well, Ham, we oughter agree on the capitial T Truth.."

Mr. WW.. let me be so bold as to say.. having "seen the light".. why try to attach a certain dogma.. or religion.. or interpretation to it.. you can't really you know. It is, what it is.. people hundreds if not thousands of years ago have seen the same thing.. why try to reclaim the equilibrium you thought you had, when you once thought you had all of the answers.. the path calls.. why not keep moving.. :)

I see little difference from this, and from the doctrines of Crowley's successor. from http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/.../achubbard.html I really don't see how you are trying to do anything really different here..

hmm. or maybe he knows where Jimmy Hoffs IS..

I see our friend every once in a while.. seems happy, doing well. Yeah.. unbelievable. You know, those sycophants had "the world" in their hands..