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"That da dumb ministry be not blamed".. more like "gotta save the organization, and at all costs". Lie, cheat, steal, anything goes.

Best to be wary.. ha. Seems to me that the folks I knew that left had left under mysterious circumstances. Little or not explanation given other than "they proved themselves unfaithful" or other such nonsense. No rebuttal allowed. No real questions put forward. "How in God's name is confronting a friggin adulterer being unfaithful or could be considered sin?" No wonder to me why they hide the sin anymore. Had I known the half of it, I would have left YEARS before I did.

Interesting.. and Hopeful, those who referred to him as "Jesus" were carefully watched. Sick organization. After a couple of meetings, say "Jesus" and you're really out of place. Not a Christian organization is an understatement.

"And Mr. Hammeroni when I said you would receive it well, that was what I meant. You seem workable when mentally provoked" Yassem House, I obeys ya, heh heh. Actually, I think the ordinary person trys to assess what kind of effect that his/her comments or actions have on others. Most people really care. I think TWI took advantage of this. Do not perform stupid unreasonable requests, or for that matter, you did not even have to know about some arcane protocol you apparently ignored. Your nose was rubbed in the fact that you were so unthoughtful, so uncaring. Don't you know how you "hurt" the poor mog by not sending a letter of appreciation, not doing this, not doing that.. and I ate some of that kind of crap. And don't dare disagree with them on a doctrinal level, for any reason. I don't see that kind of "reproof" here. Even when it comes to blows at times (I usually jump behind the bar and wait for the cops to clear it up) it seems people really care. Those in da ministry do not have this amount of freedom. The WayGB may get their chuckles, but what do they have to chuckle about? They have little freedom there. No freedom to disagree. No freedom to stick up for themselves. No freedom to BE themselves. They WILL carry out the mandates of their masters, right or wrong.

Nope. Has a brother though.

How about this guy? I think he was in N.C., last I knew. Knew him from WVA.

Back at der vey, I am suprized they did not sport leather..

As McCartney was coming on, I was thinking.. another old guy. At least this old guy can still really ROCK.

Seth, don't think you can get one. Apparently, "those" kind of stores that sell the blow up type got some kind of injuction against the cloners. It will be tied up in litigation many, many moons before it is resolved.

"We KNOW you're hiding something. It will go bettter for you if you come clean. Now, what is this business about seven dependants? Why can't they work?"

I really hope they don't pick up the idea.. they'd be tax collectors from hell.. audit? all they need would be genuine spiritual suspicion..

I wasn't corpse, but- funniest thing I heard about was about the LEAD experience. Somehow, Mrs. Wierwille caught wind that the poor corpses couldn't freshen themselves at the camp. She got some young whipper snapper by the ear, and lo and behold, the ban against bathing was mysteriously lifted. I hope this was not just another Vey urban legend..

Sheesh- worse than a friggin motivated tax collector.

Cripe. Are they STILL doing this crap?? Don't they have anything better to do than to try to "smoke out" debt in the ranks? Full time "ministers"- ha. They would be more suited to a job at the IRS trying to "smoke out" bad deductions.

"I was a human being, once".

Reproof? What reproof? Never got it. I think people more of like feel sorry for me.. perfect example of what twenty years in a cult can do to a person, heh heh.

That live in the house that saint vic built.

Just checked da "wonderful for da believers" site again.. got a message on the message boards- "under construction, our programmer cannot fix it if you try to access it in any way, please refrain from accessing it". What in da world is up with that??? Makes as much sense as the folks that are left in that organization.

Steve- I think the corpses grads would be more of some committed as you can get-think they can do anything-but can't even jump start a stinking dead dog if their life depended on it-but still want to run your life-non-members.

Uncle Hairy, the real key to it would be to give it the "country club" persona. Anybody who is anybody just HAS to "belong". For "a mere pittance" they could be part of a present truth corporation. We could hire an army of Jeeve's who could snub them at every turn. Any complaint, and the non-share holders are OUTA here. Dunno.. I think it may work. Has before!

Oh well, I guess they don't want their puters to get possessed.

Foamy could be our first president.. be warned, it is a little bloody. Foamy the Squirrel When there you will have to click on "neurotically yours"

We could sit inside a smoke filled room, tossing darts at a map trying to decide where to send "non-shareholders".

Uncle Hairy, could I be one of the "members"?

Harve? Jean? Anybody? Oldies has even promised to "behave".