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This is one of the things that was so wrong about the whole thing. You weren't "allowed" to just say "No" to things you didn't really want to do. I mean, if my kid came to me in the middle of a big hockey game on T.V., asking for help with his bicycle chain, of course I wouldn't say "No". I blew the game off and helped him. But, that's how a family functions. These nimrods weren't my family.They were just some selfish bastages (that's the plural form ), making unreasonable demands on our time and good nature. We didn't owe them anything beyond common courtesy and they should have respected our decisions as individuals. But, of course, they didn't.

I'm still hung up on the vengeance thing..... "Vengeance is mine.", saith The Lord....But, capital punishment is, in essence, our way as a society of assuming that responsibility....What is the intended purpose of capital punishment? ... Is it to punish, seek vengeance, deter potential crime, ensure no further crimes will be committed... or what?....How have other similar societies dealt with the issue?

Congratulations. You've just stumbled on one of the peculiarities that helps define Way Theology.Here it is in a nut-shell: According to Way Theology, when a person is physically born, they are a two-fold being...body and soul. (soul being breath-life in way terms) When they become spiritually born-again, they acquire a third component, known as holy spirit (the gift), which is also known as Christ in you. Now, according to this whole concept, people who are only body and soul (as was the case of people in the O.T.) can not understand anything from a spiritual perspective, so, God had to talk to them in terms they could understand.... Here's where it gets tricky. Supposedly, since they couldn't understand spiritual matters, they could not comprehend the concept of a devil, since the devil is supposed to be a spirit being. So, these evil doings of God in the O.T. were really the doings of the devil but had to be explained in terms that could be understood by people with no spiritual perspective. Yeah, I know, it's complicated. But, that's how The Way explains why God appeared to do evil things in the O.T. edit: I'm not especially interested in a doctrinal discussion of this concept. I'm simply trying to give soul searcher, who was never in TWI, some perspective on how these things are seen within the framework of The Way.

She Loves You----The Beatles

Whatcha gonna do? I think I could stay with you for a while....Maybe longer if I do.

Maybe we could sentence them to a fate such as Sisyphus endured. He's that Greek God whose punishment was to roll a boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, again and again. But then, wouldn't that just be a form of vengeance? I thought the Bible quoted God as saying, "Vengeance is mine." And, that leads to the even bigger question: How can a God who is all love be so bent on retaliation?

It has a bit of a local connection so maybe I've heard it more often than most. Still, it continues to get a lot of airtime on satellite stations.

What about cases of wrongful conviction? Death is pretty final. What about an 18 year old boy who is caught having consensual sex with his 17 year old (ie: underage) girlfriend? There are just too many variables to make this a black or white kind of issue.

Like Wierwille said, "Even if it never comes to pass, it's still God's Word fakin' it."

Hey! Here's something we could fake. Let's pretend fake that what we were involved with was some sort of noble cause. Maybe then the outcome will magically change. Yeah, that's it. Let's get a web page or something and talk about how we were once God's elite, front line troops.....Fake it 'til you make it.

Ha!...How do I know you're not faking it?

With Independence Day rapidly approaching, I though some might, perhaps, have an interest in this program that honors our military veterans. My father-in-law recently took one of these flights and found it to be quite a moving experience. Honor Flight

Don't you think the time is right for us to find All the things we thought weren't proper could be right in time? And can you see which way we should turn together or alone? I can never see what's right or what is wrong.

All the "fake it 'til you make it.", "If I act excited, I'll be excited.", "Life is tremendous!" sort of doctrine that was being promoted by The Way during the 1970s is straight out of secular sales training classes and books (ie:Life Is Tremendous!/Charlie Jones, The Greatest Salesman in The World/Og Mandino, How To Make Friends And Influence People/Dale Carnegie, etc.) So, then, you might ask yourself... why were we being groomed as salesmen instead of servants of our fellow man? Well, the answer is obvious, PFAL was VPW's product and we were his sales force. After that reality sets in, you can start to ponder this... If the Bible really has every thing you need to know about everything and anything, why weren't we trained using scriptural materials rather than all these non-Biblical/pseudo-Biblical sources?

Had a High School Diploma when I got in. Got an Associate of Applied Science while still involved.

This Diamond Ring---Gary Lewis and The Playboys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-lF10HMjdw

Has anyone mentioned Christian Cloud Abraham yet? HERE HERE

Sorry, it's Connection by The Rolling Stones Free Post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtHwJ0nNOSE&feature=related

I think that was standard M.O. for any of the so-called "programs". People outside of The Way just call it self delusion.

In the Jonestown documentary that aired on TV a couple years ago, one of the people commented (I'm paraphrasing) that no one joins a group they already know to be a cult.

This reminiscing reminds me of something that happened in my high school days. I hung out with a bunch of guys who were 2 years ahead of me. (Do you think it's a coincidence I had a cute sister who was the same age as them? ) Anyhow, sometimes for fun, they would go out around midnight, find a house with all the lights turned out and hot-wire the car parked in front of the house. (I only partook of this one time, myself.) Then, they would joy ride around town, being careful not to mess anything up or cause any damage. At the end of the joy ride, they would park the car about a block away from where they found it and laugh about how the owner would wonder why he parked so far away. They never got caught. That brings me to my point. It was a lot of fun. So, suppose they should reconnect after all these years and reminisce about this whole thing. I don't think it would be wrong for them to remember how much fun it was. But, shouldn't they, along with remembering the fun, also acknowledge it was a very foolish thing to do? I think you already know my opinion.

No, Cindy A. was the Womens' coordinator our first year. She left during that year, but, I don't know anything about the circumstances. Larry W. left with Pam S. If I understand correctly, they were dismissed because they were having an "interpersonal relationship". If you will recall, that sort of thing was forbidden. They returned the following year as a married couple. They split up shortly after graduation. I ran into Larry about 2 years ago. He is doing fine despite some health problems that plagued him for a while. He has since remarried to a lovely lady. They have two beautiful daughters in college. I think the bee guy was Rick W@ts*n. Not sure on that one.