waysider

Oh, you mean that was a parody?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith Heavy emphasis on the law of believing, name it and claim it concepts. E.W. Kenyon is one of the originators. Much of it resembles the first few sessions of PFAL (IMO).

I suppose a lot of things vary according to where you were geographically, but, I, for one, heard people, on numerous occasions, both demand (and command) that God do whatever it was they happened to be praying for. Even those Bank of God checkbooks that they sold in the bookstore were a variation of this concept, as was the "name it and claim it" thinking that became so prevalent. In fact, in some circles, it was seen as a sign of weak believing to "ask" for something rather than "claim" it. I think this actually has its roots in the PFAL class, in the session where Wierwille pokes fun at people who still pray The Lord's Prayer instead of recognizing various scriptures in the epistles. Ultimately, it all comes back to the pseudo "law of believing". It's (Whatever you are praying for) already yours and you will manifest it in proportion to your degree of believing. No God really needed because "It works for saint and sinner alike.". (cough)

That's a cop-out, John. When you say "they" are doing this (specific thing) or "they" are saying that (specific thing), you need to be ready to identify (specifically) the object of your reference. Otherwise, it's all idle babble. Meaningless. Unworthy of consideration or response.

I can't stay, yes, I know You know I hate to go But, goodbye, love was sweet Our worlds can never meet.

Carrie Anne-----The Hollies

Things usually work out for the best if you just be "yourself". (At least that's what Grandpa Waysider used to tell me.)

I think you may have misspelled a word.

Wasn't everything that happened to you your own fault? (Faulty believing, negative confession, not speaking in tongues enough, not studying the blue book enough, not listening to God, etc., etc., yada, yada.)

I'm gonna get back and read this thread as soon as I can pencil in some time for it.

"The Way" (New Knoxville variety) is just the taxidermist's model, a lifeless, stuffed relic of the original. The real "The Way" (D.N.A. derivative variety) lives on in a multitude of other places and life forms, such as the denizens of Smith County. (Don't forget to click the "donate" button.)

Alexander W. Livingston was a "seed boy". (While still a child, Livingston showed an interest in seeds and plants) http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=2654

I'd still like to know who "they" are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4_gf68n_30

Who are "they"?

That's unfortunate news for people who value Wierwille's credibility. AC--page 10 "Speaking in tongues is prerequisite to revelation." If he was wrong about that, what else was he wrong about?

http://theview.abc.go.com/

The Lords of Flat-Bush

well, it all open to one's own personal interpretation, Galen, but, I think we're talking about the upper management types who have charged themselves with oversight. one example "Program to be administered on an honor basis. Any volunteer may be dismissed at any time and/or program cancelled at sole discretion of those charged with oversight." SOURCE

Yeah, ironic, huh? "Brain wasted" organizations attempting to protect their followers from "wasting their brains".....The blind leading the blind all over again.

The only "wasting" I know about is a disease that sometimes plagues the deer population and resembles mad cow disease. It eats away at the brain and is incurable.