waysider

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this lately but VP wasn't really a "Dr.". (Just in case anyone was still wondering)

Yeah, I guess I posted that too fast. I went back and edited it. Thanks for catching that.

Remember this one?

It's been a common practice for centuries to interchange melodies and lyrics of songs. The words in the blue songbook, however, were intentionally changed to reflect Way doctrine. (Or as it was stated at the time, "to make them more accurate with the rightly divided Word.") One glaring example is the way Amazing Grace was changed to eliminate the phrase "a wretch like me". There was even a teaching (Possibly a Sunday Night Service) that made reference to the reason for this particular change. "Seated in the heavenlies" and "before the foundations of the world" and other such scriptures were used to show how the original phrase was "off". I don't remember much of the minute specifics. The brown songbook, on the other hand, was specifically changed because of conflicts with "permission of usage" problems. This explanation was given to me by someone who was very tight with the uppermost level of management and had been involved with the ministry since the 1950s. Out of respect for him, I won't use his name here.

It's hard to beat some of those great old songs, though. Songs like What a Fellow's Hip and I Don't Know About Tomorrow, I Just Guess From Day To Day .

I never paid much attention to it until one day I happened to notice I had 10,000. Holy crapioly! How did that happen?

Why didn't the L.E.A.D. participants simply use those MountainTop checks?

Some words get automatically filtered. :P

I remember that much, vividly. I think it was in the early 1980s but I could be wrong on the date.

They stick out their thumbs, "rev" up their believing and hitch a ride to the next latest and greatest God-on-a-stick operation.

John said: The so called law of believing has been misunderstood. If you have the word of God, THEN you can believe (with action) and it shall come to pass, like Jesus said. Believing, however, is not this 'raygun' that you can just shoot at any situation and magically make it right. If that were true, then no God IS needed. waysider said: You must not have the same PFAL book as me. Mine says "it works for saint and sinner alike" John said: I don't recall anything about a raygun. waysider responds: Nor do I. In fact, I never mentioned a ray-gun----you did. ------------------------------------------------- PFAL page 32 The law of believing is the greatest law in the Word of God. As a matter of fact, it is not only the greatest law in The Word, it is the greatest law in the whole world. Believing works for saint and sinner alike. ------------------------------------------------- So there you have it. In The Way, "born again believers" were referred to as saints and "natural-man unbelievers" were referred to as sinners. Wierwille is clearly implying here that no God is needed for the so-called law of believing to come into play.

You must not have the same PFAL book as me. Mine says "it works for saint and sinner alike".

Sorry, I probably should have noted that i "hid" THIS link in my post. (post #155) Here is another link, as well. http://www.ithaca.edu/faculty/stephens/cdback.html

Freeze-dried God. Just add water.

Well, I did say "valuable".

Self-validation "...John XXIII called the Council of Constance in 1414, which deposed all three popes and elected a new one, Martin V. The new pope pronounced Constance a valid ecumenical council, thereby approving its aims and decrees." Source: Introduction to Christianity....Mary Jo Weaver, David Brakke page 85 ----------------------------------------------------------- Joe: "My Grandad was the most honest man to ever walk these streets." Moe: "How do you know?" Joe: "He told me." Moe: "How do you know he was telling you the truth?" Joe: He wouldn't lie." Moe; "How can you be sure?" Joe: "Simple. He was the most honest man to ever walk these streets."

I think the only valuable thing I really learned in fellow laborers is the importance of perseverance in the face of adversity. (I learned this by default.) Of course, that's a little hard to put on a resume without going into detail about where and how you learned it.

Pretty trippy. (Don't do this if you are epileptic.)

R.I.P., Pinetop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD2PTU3Oi84

This one's gone too long. HERE is the answer. FREE POST!!

He saw people groveling and sniveling? How do we know that? Here's what it says on page 3 of PFAL: "As I looked about me at communities where I had served and among the ministers with whom I had worked, the abundant life was frequently not evident." The "groveling and sniveling" is a subjective interpretation on your part of what was actually said.