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I can whistle "Three Blind Mice" in Spanish.

Eyesopen and Eagle have both written books.

No I meant "date and switch." That's when someone feigns a special interest in you and leads you on in order to get you to take the class. Then, once they have you in the class, they dump you and find someone else to work on. There are even instances of WOWs sleeping with multiple class prospects in order to close the sale. Once the person is indoctrinated into the fellowship, they "date and switch" another prospect. This very thing happened to me personally, though I did not have sex with the person. I think it was probably a lot more commonplace than many people realize. In the least common denominator, it's prostitution. Sex is being exchanged for a signed "green card" and class "donation".

A lot of this had to do with the degree of involvement and commitment one invested in the whole thing. For instance, I was all gung-ho for my first 3 or 4 years. This was before I ventured out of my local area. Then, I had a brief assignment that required me to quit my job and move to another area of the state. It got me to start to question things but I still didn't really see what was going on. After that, I moved again to go into the FLO program. This is where I really started to seriously wonder if the whole thing wasn't some cruel illusion. I mean, here we were, supposedly living a lifestyle that replicated the church of the first century but, in reality, we were living a lifestyle that was contrary to it. It took ten more years to really start to have some confidence that my doubts were well founded. Had I simply stayed in my little local area, I probably never would have seen the ugly reality of TWI in its naked state.

And then there was (He was the bravest of them all.)

It a component of the cathartic process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

And let's not forget the old "date and switch". It was a common sales tactic I confess. It's what got me to my first twig meeting and motivated me to sign the green card. By the time the class was over, of course, I had all sorts of other reasons for staying. (That's where it gets complicated.)

"Ain't but one thing'll give me the blues Got a hole in the bottom of my last pair of shoes" Now it seems that even The Blues has the blues. The San Francisco Blues Festival, the country's oldest running event of its kind, has canceled due to economic woes. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...001&sc=1000 Support live music! (Blues or otherwise.)

I thought the jester get-up was appropriate.

I think it must be like those cement yard geese that people dress up. Same goose---different outfit.

R.I.PSnooks Eaglan

I especially liked the GVT (Global Voice Translator). Eliminates the need for tongues with interptetation.

VeePee turned it into a pretty cushy living like A-Rod, too.

Here's a question that seems to have been lost in the shhh----uffle. "Do you suppose Wierwille ever considered that summoning someone to HQ, from another state, for the purpose of having sex with them, might violate The Mann Act?"

I don't think that approach will phase them, Brush. At least not if they still resemble the TWI that I remember. First, because Church history holds no particular place of importance in "TWI thinking" other than to delude themselves into thinking they are reliving history by living like the people in The Book Of Acts. In reality, they are living an antithesis. Secondly, a large part of TWI doctrine is to discount and disregard what they call "worldly wisdom". This was actually a big deal in the original PFAL class. They consider philosophy to be a "counterfeit", meant to lure people away from the genuine. Believe me, before I got into TWI, I was very interested in many of the same writers as you, as we have discussed before. They were very skilled at showing me exactly where Nietzsche, Dostoyevsky, Camus, etc. were leading me away from "The Truth". Here's a little blip from PFAL: "Spiritual weakness and inability can be due only to improper spiritual food or neglect of the Word of God." (ie: You are spiritually weak because you read Nietzsche.) "Natural man or the flesh or the senses cannot receive or know God." (Now, Brushy, surely you want to receive and know God, don't you?) <_<

I'm not so sure I would go with the existence of God thing. That would probably lead you straight to a discussion of speaking in tongues. (Unless that's already a part of the game plan)

In case you missed it, I never said the Advanced Class represented my doctrine. You are not challenging my "doctrine" in the least bit. This so-called class is something Mr. Wierwille committed to writing as an example of what he presented to be Truth. Not a dissertation on current events at HQ, but rather, never ending, never changing Truth. If he didnm't intend for it to have any permanence, he should not have committed it to print.

So then disregard the actual page number. I only listed it as a reference convenience. Mine is the 1971 version. Look at whatever page you have that lists the functions of 14 different spirits. These include Anti-Christ, Bondage, Error, Fear, Jealousy, Slumber, Emulation, Strife, Whoredoms, Perversion, Envy, Infirmity, Leviathan and Iniquity. Not only are they listed, there are notes detailing what he verbally expounded about each one. If what he was teaching was merely a reflection of current events in TWI and not some Divinely given gem of Truth, it wouldn't seem to have much lasting value, would it? Now, if you are saying he was wrong when he taught this, his credibility isn't really worth a hill of beans, anyhow, is it?

So you're saying that Wierwille taught us something inaccurate at The AC?

It's been a really long time since I heard this but I think he called it a "spirit of whoredoms" in the Advanced Class. It's on page 20 of the syllabus. (Hosea 4: 6-14/ 5: 1-4) I wouldn't swear that to be a correct interpretation of what he said. That's how I remember it, though.

I'm not sure why but it reminds me of old song by The Stones

And this, of course, is the essence of my somewhat rhetorical question, "Was Jim Jones ever found guilty of his crimes at Jonestown?" He was never pronounced "Guilty" in a court of law and yet it would be an obvious error to presume he was "innocent".