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Works for saints and sinners you like-----errrr, I mean sinners alike.

So then, in essence, Hap, you paid THEM (TWI) to come and promote a "product" that would generate more revenue for THEIR coffers. Isn't that part of what ABS was supposedly intended for? That's like paying for the privilege of being allowed to buy the product. Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure a lot of people had a great time as a result of your hard work and sincere intentions.It just seems rather twisted to me. I,too, was entrusted with setting up a similar meeting at about the same period of time (mid 1970's) and they backed out leaving me holding the bag. There was no offer to help me cover my losses. It seems like the money traveled on a one way street. But, I have digressed. My real question was : Why didn't they express more genuine interest in these programs, such as FLO, that were supposedly vital to the growth of "the ministry"? If I am wrong about this, I would welcome examples to the contrary.

Thanks, guys Yeah, maybe he he was more inta chillin' wid his own posse. Know what ahm sayin'?

Anyone know where they are?

I was in Fellow Laborers of Ohio, a 2 year, in residence program based out of the Limb HQ. (Sometimes you will hear us referred to as FLO.) We were located about an hour and a half away from New Knoxville. (by car) There was an airport for small aircraft, such as Ambassador One, nearby. In all the time I was there, I can't recall even one visit by VPW or any of the BOT or BOD (or whatever they were called at the time.) Of course, that was a long time ago but it still seems like I would remember. After all, if we had a limb leader or someone of note passing through the area it was our job to see that they got proper accommodations. As I understand, there were other such programs scattered about the country as well. Now, I know that, statistically speaking, there just weren't all that many of us to begin with. But what I'm wondering is if anyone who was involved with one of these programs can recall a visit of this nature. We could probably toss Way Homes into the mix to expand the possibilities, too. VPW had a motor coach, a private jet, a valet to attend to him on trips, etc. and yet he never bothered to investigate the workings of our program. Any thoughts?

There were a whole lot of genuinely sincere, dedicated people working at the grass roots level. Perhaps you were one of them, Caveman. But, at the highest level(VPW) it appears that it was all about selling classes, generating sponsorship, and creating a solid base of faithful ABS'ers to fund his lavish lifestyle.(And a very lavish lifestyle it was, indeed.) Yes, we got some "return" for our investments but, for the most part, we were hoodwinked by a common flimflam man. IMO(Yours, of course, may possibly differ. I'm Okay with that.)

Any distraction from WOW would have been like killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Hmmmmm? Now who do I know that lives in San Diego?

Here are some good places to start examining the "law" of believing. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/gsradio/audi...09-28-91942.mp3 http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/editor...god-needed.html http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=13052

I haven't the faintest idea. {:-{

VP was a conman, not a king. The Way was a cult, not a kingdom

Every now and then, I just need to hear Paul Butterfield remind me that Everything's Gonna Be Alright. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjLj04YPxek...feature=related

Son Of A Preacher Man

I was thinking something more like this: Carny — Someone who works in a carnival. The term is also applied to the carnival itself. This by way of Todd Robbins: "As Chris Christ put it, 'Ward [Hall] and I are showmen. Don't call us carnies. Carnies are junky ride jockeys that are here today and gone tomorrow. The difference between a carny and a showman is the difference between chicken dang and chicken salad!' And as someone who has tried at times to emulate them, I [ed.] can tell you that there is a vast difference between framing an attraction and being showman enough to present it effectively to the public.

CHOMP!! You got it. Even though the correct title is, indeed, Polk Salad Annie, it should really be Poke Sallet Annie. Poke is a type of wild greens. When you cook greens they are no longer called salad, they are called sallet. YER NEXT!!!

Her Daddy was lazy and no count Claimed he had a bad back All her brothers were fit for Was stealin' watermelons out of my truck patch.

YUP!!

Sorry! Here's an easy one to make up for it. When the truth is found to be lies and all the joy within you dies

Sounds like Evil Ways------Santana ???

Hmmmmm. I had a dog once who [how shall I say this?] was quite fond of my leg. Now I guess I have to wonder how that fits with all this other stuff. (And just when I thought I was starting to understand it all.) [:-[

Hi, Grumpy Welcome to "the cafe" Some people might be prone to ask the same questions of you. Care to offer any insight?

To each his own, Said Farmer Jones, As he kissed ol' Bossie The Cow.

Poor JeffSjo. He seems to be taking the splat rap for something that was actually posted by me, not him. A musical apology to all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_5fmGwMFl4

Spin Doctors--------------------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPhkz6UOCs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givZsEAW80k