Seth R.

I stumbled on this when doing a google for the PFAL class, seems interesting and I might buy it. Here's a quick clip: Page 53 Chapter 1 1971: I was a teenage Wierwille "It was a crisp, dusky sunday evening in late April 1971 when Cary Potter and I pulled into a slot at the YMCA on the east side of Wichita. The air was cool and comfortable the way it is in Kansas that time of year... ...There under the awning, wearing sandals and Osh-Kosh jeans with on shirt beneath the straps, stood Evan Pyle, beaming like a kid at a circus." http://books.google.com/books?id=bUeO6Ir2p...kOxdnM#PPA53,M1 So who is this guy, and who else knew him? Seth

Wow cool I guess I'm at stage 6 enlightenment. Thanks, Seth

Wow, just finished listening to that episode. I've been out since Dec of '94 so all I heard from '87 to '94 was a mix of Geer's cryptic regurgitations from his West Coast Cronies, and TWI party line like the *gag-gag* leadership tapes from LCM et al. So 14 years later it's very healing to hear what was shared, I hope you have more from this person and hopefully others who were top leaders who left will come forward to share their awakenings. I haven't had any revelation in a long time, and I think that's a good thing. Seth

Hi Paw, I guess 8 years and still *not* a grease spot is a good record. It would be interesting to do a visual timeline of events since the opening of the GSCafe. I haven't listened to the new podcast but I can feel the knots in my stomach already, the Fog years (as LCM, HRA and DEW referred to it, claiming that since the POP to 1989 when the trustees severed their ties with Geer was like a fog) was a very crazy time and although not planned by the HQ trustees I think it was well utilized and taken full advantage of by them. A loud "Huzzah!" for the Grease Spot Cafe and all the management wait-staff and cooks, here's a raised cup of Joe for another 8 years. BTW, I think I left once and came back twice. ;) Seth

LOL that was funny! Reminds me of the Robin Williams bit about god, he said something like this. "Do you think god ever gets high? I mean like when he made the Duck Billed Platypus, ok make it furry likes to swim with webbed feet, a ducks bill, poisonous barbs on hind legs, umm and oh yeah it lays eggs. Eff you Darwin!" Hahaha! Seth

Thanks that was cool. Here's a Keynote the Woz did for the 5th hope. It's in MP3 format, very fun and gives a lot of history. Saturday Keynote: Steve Wozniak Part 1 Part 2 Seth

Thanks, I've been toying with an idea for a podcast for some time now, I have a site I want to host the podcasts from and a forum and chat. If I just spend some time getting on the talkshoe thing and learning how to use it maybe we can start a weekly 1 hour or so format. And on the fly we can have people posting new content relative to the discussion and have it as a single thread, including chat transcript and URLs. If I get some more interested parties I'll give out my web site address and people can join the blog/forum. I just need to get going on it. Seth

I'm glad to know you have some relief now. Aleve is a wonder drug, to bad I can't take it any more, it gives me asthma I took it for five years before I read the side effects and put two and two together. Wonderful at killing my headache just makes it impossible to breath. Seth

I think the real question is this, regardless of belief system is the group abusive to it's followers and does it take an elitist position that implies or literally states infidels should die? I don't care what you believe, if that system of belief calls for death of those that don't believe the same, and it enforces strict adherence to dogma under pain of being ostracized, then I would call it a cult. Abuse can take the form of: Emotional Sexual Financial Labor Physical Social Mental It clouds the issue when we start getting involved with ideology I prefer just cutting to the chase, forget what they believe. Do they beat their followers? Do the deprive them of food, sleep, free time, social interaction with the outside world? Do they threaten that if their followers leave the group that they will have bad things befall them? Do they forbid contact with those not in the group especially family and old friends? Do they require that their followers bring new people in or suffer judgment? Do they require a large percentage of wages to be given by the follower in order to secure their good standing with the group? I think when talking to the followers the mistake has been made and I have made it, that the focus is on the belief system. What I've come to realize is if we start with human questions, like are you eating enough, how much sleep are you getting, how long has it been since you've talked to your folks, has anyone threatened you, or hit you, do you feel at ease, are there pressures to conform, have you felt less then because you haven't met the expectations of your group leader, would you feel safe if you left the group, how much money are you expected to give every week, if you became ill from let's say heart disease or cancer do you think you could see a doctor without a problem from the group, when is the last time you were able to go away by yourself for an afternoon or day or weekend, how far can you travel by yourself from where you live, etc... Seth

Hi folks, This comes from the "Some-of-my-best-ideas-happen-in-the-shower" Department. Seems to me that there maybe enough interest that an Atheists section could get some action, and I was wondering if some of my Atheist, Pantheist, Agnostic, and Humanist friends would like to chime in on the subject? I have about a dozen topics I'd like to explore with people here, like: the Astrotheological roots of the old and new testament. Egyptian Monotheism: A precursor to Judaism? The disappearance of Tuthmose, and the appearance of Moses: Coincidence? Primordial "flood" stories spanning dozens of cultures hundreds and even thousands of years before Noah. The Virgin myth from half a dozen cultures through out history predating the Christian era. The Sun cult, Lunar cult, Stellar cult and Saturnian cult and their relation to themes found in the bible. Morality and Religion? Recovering from extreme superstition. The human animal: civilizations only hope. (why denying our animal nature is the most dangerous thing we can do.) God free and happy. (share your stories) The difference between religious faith and logical faith. Atheists too are reverent. Pantheism, let the joy of no sects begin. That's all I can think of. Seth

I hear ya, when I was in the Air Force I had to have all of my wisdom teeth pulled before going over seas. The oral surgeon asked me if I just wanted 2 now and 2 later, I said yank them all I don't want to deal with this twice. Well anyway I developed dry socket in all four, and um the pain, hard to describe but maybe like having a hammer tapping my jaws every time my heart beat. Clove oil helped a little but mostly I just had to wait. Ah, the sweet memories of the Air Force.... Seth

20% of VPW's teachings were inspired by 80% of what he plagiarized. 20% of VPW's lies revealed 80% of the truth. 80% of the bad times I had in TWI seem to have been wiped out by 20% of the good times. 80% of LCM's rants were enjoyed by 20% of the people. 20% of the so called "Homosexuals" purged by LCM made up 80% of the 20% that gave 80% of the ABS. I suspect 20% of those that read this reply will reply to my reply while 80% will not. Seth

Haha that's great, if I was going to write my own Obit I'd take out a full page prepaid ad that would read like this: The following people can kiss my fat dead butt... Well you get the idea. Cheers, Seth

Communist icon Castro bows out 8 hours ago HAVANA, Feb 19, 2008 (AFP) — Ailing revolutionary icon Fidel Castro permanently gave up the Cuban presidency on Tuesday, ending five decades of ironclad rule of the island marked by his brash defiance of the United States. In a message published by the online version of the Cuban Communist Party newspaper Granma, the 81-year-old Castro said he would not seek the presidency again when it is decided later this week. "I neither will aspire to nor will I accept -- I repeat -- I neither will aspire to nor will I accept, the position of president of the Council of State and commander-in-chief," Castro wrote, almost 19 months after undergoing intestinal surgery and handing power temporarily to his brother Raul Castro. "It would betray my conscience to take up a responsibility that requires mobility and total commitment that I am not in physical condition to offer," he said. Castro did not say who he thought should be his successor as president, though most analysts believe Raul Castro, 76, is the obvious choice. But the elder Castro's reference to a "middle generation" suggests that younger leaders such as Vice President Carlos Lage, 56, should not be ruled out. The Cuban Revolution "also has the middle generation that learned together with us the elements of the complex, almost unknowable art of organizing and directing a Revolution," Castro wrote, in what could be a hint at leaders to come. US President George W. Bush said Tuesday that Fidel Castro's decision to step down should begin a "democratic transition" in Cuba, eventually culminating with free and fair elections. This comment by Bush seems to be comically hypocritical, "free and fair elections"?!! Are you kidding me? From a president who rigged his own. Seth "I believe that the change from Fidel Castro ought to begin a period of democratic transition," said Bush, who signalled no change in a half-century of tough US policies towards America's one-party neighbor. "Eventually this transition ought to lead to free and fair elections. And I mean free, and I mean fair -- not these kinds of staged elections that the Castro brothers tried to foist off as being true democracy," Bush said, on the road in Rwanda. A guerrilla revolutionary and communist idol, Castro held out against history and turned tiny Cuba into a thorn in the paw of the mighty capitalist United States. The longest ruling leader in the Americas overthrew Fulgencio Batista to take power in 1959 and kept a tight clamp on dissent at home, imprisoning political opponents. Rights groups put the current number of political prisoners at more than 200. Fidel Castro has said he would never retire from politics and he vowed to continue his editorial writing. Out of public sight since his surgery, seen only in videos and photos, Castro has often published columns in the Cuban media titled "Reflections of a commander in chief." "I am not saying farewell. I want only to fight as a soldier of ideas. I will continue writing under the title 'Reflections of Comrade Fidel.' I will be one more weapon in the arsenal that you can count on. Perhaps my voice will be heard. I will be careful," he wrote Tuesday. Castro's message came just five days before a historic session in the National Assembly in which he was up for reelection for another five-year mandate. Raul Castro said a month ago that the National Assembly would elect Cuba's next president on February 24, amid speculation that his brother -- for the first time in five decades -- might not be its choice. Many speculate Raul Castro may become president permanently or that another regime official might move up the ladder. While Castro appeared to be in better health than a year ago, many Cuba-watchers believed he would never be able to resume the full, wide-ranging powers he used to wield. Few, however, doubt that Fidel will remain influential. Famed for his rumpled olive fatigues, straggly beard, and the cigars he reluctantly gave up for his health, Castro dodged everything his enemies could throw at him in nearly half a century in power, including assassination plots, a US-backed invasion bid, and a US trade embargo. In Madrid, Spain's Latin America minister Trinidad Jimenez said Castro's decision to give up Cuba's presidency will give Raul more power to carry out reforms.

I'd call the twi Movie. "A-crock-of-$ hi t, Now" or "The Island of Dr. Wierwille" of course since Brando is dead we'd need someone else to play Dr.'s part... I think Gary Busey would be great. Clancy Brown would make a great LCM Seth

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Yay! 39 years today. I have a whole year to prepare for 40. Seth

Hey Vickles welcome to the club, whether you call yourself Atheist, or Pantheist welcome to the world of unlimited human potential. No invisible sky giant required. Seth

The Borna disease virus, very interesting, I will be talking to my Dr. about this. What kind of anti-viral med could work on the brain? Seth

Hi Oklahoma City WOW, During my wow year every time I looked at the way rag and saw the head shot of LCM I saw a pen1$ in his mouth. It used to freak me out, this is the first time I every shared that, but the memory came (no pun intended) to me when I was reading your post. Welcome to GSC, Seth

From Slashdot and Wikinews comes this article: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%22Anonymous%2..._Scientology%22 Quick snip: The Internet-based group "Anonymous" has released statements on YouTube and via a press release, outlining what they call a "War on Scientology". Church of Scientology related websites, such as religousfreedomwatch.org have been removed due to a suspected distributed denial-of-service-attack (DDoS) by a group calling themselves "Anonymous". On Friday, the same group allegedly brought down Scientology's main website, scientology.org, which was available sporadically throughout the weekend. Seth

I figured I'd whip a little knowledge on ya, for what it's worth. It's only 10 pages of big type in pdf format. http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/reli...ing%20James.pdf Enjoy! Seth

Lately I've been studying occult symbolism and I was wondering if TWI might have a connection to the Knights of Columbus. For those who don't know what I'm talking about I can't explain it, not quickly anyway. If any other secret society comes to mind please reply. Thanks, Seth P.S. to those who hate my short questions, I'm sorry, I like getting to the point.

Happy Winter Solstice!

In 2001 these things were selling for $83 a piece in Japan. BBC article They might have something here, if they can do that with all fruits then the storage of apples and oranges will be easier. Imagine cubed potatoes, perfect french fries every time. Seth