WordWolf

"Well you're the real tough cookie with the long history, of breaking little hearts like the one in me."

"Ever since I was a young boy, I've played the silver ball."[/b]

"December 1963 (Oh, What a Night)".

Street Fighter Jean Claude Van Damme The Expendables 2

I was not privy to the exact discussion. (I might have been laughing too hard to help if I HAD been in the room when that was discussed.) Paw did agree to post their response. I'll see about finding a link when I'm up to it.

We're discussing this lately.

SIMILAR riff, but not identical. I could easily tell them apart by those riffs. A lot of songs sound a lot like another song, or like another artist's style, but aren't identical. The band "Texas" did a song that had a moment that sounded like they were going to segue into Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing." Another band did a song, and, when it aired, both me and the DJ said "That's Billy Idol's "Flesh for Fantasy" being ripped off". That one might have been intentional.

Whenever vpw visited a place, they assigned people to buy his creature comforts out of pocket (like bottles of Drambuie as one poster reported- their first experience buying alcohol.) On top of everything else, they took up collections of nice, untraceable cash which was handed over to vpw in a bag. I'm sure he was happy not to report that to the IRS. He also made no secret that he could-and did- go to the twi treasurer whenever he felt like he needed some cash, and got it. ALSO, a LOT of things owned by twi were reserved for his SOLE use, and he called them "MY STUFF." If there is a "special hell" for child molesters and people who talk in the theater, I hope vpw gets imprisoned in its worst part.

Someone reported that vpw smashed it up, and it was repaired all hush-hush. There was a different story about vpw planning on motorcycle riding throughout the USA. I think he made a few stops, to lots of fanfare and fuss, and then it was quietly dropped. IIRC, LIfe Magazine covered twi, and Time Magazine covered vpw a year later. The Life Magazine article was called "the Groovy Christians of Rye." It was about the WOWs posted to Rye, NY. I think the locals wanted to make them sound like nuts, but the article made them sound more together than the locals who criticized them. A year later, Time covered some religious leaders, and vpw sounded like a nut. There was a photo of vpw with a motorcycle there. I JUST started wondering if that was related in any way. I doubt it, since the article was around 1971 (give or take a year).

Right. That second list was the actors for the eponymous characters. Michael York played D'artagnan, who, as we all should know, was not one of the THREE Musketeers. He was a hot-blooded young Gascon (a stereotype and redundant) seeking to JOIN The Musketeers.

Correct. The previous song was The Who's "5:15", which I thought was much better known.

Cynthia Nixon Addams Family Values Raul Julia

So I can say I asked... "Field of Dreams"?????

Which makes this George's turn.

Charleton Heston Faye Dunaway Christopher Lee Roy Kinnear Spike Milligan Raquel Welch Oliver Reed Richard Chamberlain Frank Finlay

That's obviously "The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson" - wait, we're doing movies? Then it's not that.....

Can you finish the sentence?

Ok. Different song, same artist. "No one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man"

Next film. Charleton Heston Faye Dunaway Christopher Lee Roy Kinnear Spike Milligan Raquel Welch

Was it "THE JAZZ SINGER". the first of the talkies?

That's it.

I've known people that weren't fans of this band, and still knew this song from the first line I posted. I'm hoping someone can get it in a few hours. If not, I'll try a different song.

I would agree with this. I would also point out that vpw was doing his best to be seen as "counter-cultural" and "cool" to the young folk. Part of doing that was to say "down" when traditional Christianity said "up." If you look at both twi and ex-twi, a LOT of time is spent on how wrong most of Christianity is on specific things, and often making the same points decades later about going directly to God and so on, that was surprising when the hippies said it, but is old news decades later. (Does this mean they're stuck in the 60s and 70s? Probably. They're definitely in a rut.) So, if traditional Christianity was for a healthy family and against abortion, vpw was ANTI-FAMILY ("I have no friends when it comes to God's Word!"- said while cutting ties to family at twi's recommendation) and for abortion. As was said, the pro-abortion thing had the advantage of being what vpw wanted to say, as it promoted getting rid of children that could interfere with A) sending money to twi B) blindly following twi C) keeping it secret that vpw and other leaders were outside their marriages, doing things that could/did result in children. If you want to know what the Bible says about some of the related ideas, I started a thread for that here... https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24071-when-is-it-a-person-when-is-it-alive/ A related thread meandered a lot, but here it is also..... https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/14337-holy-thing/

There used to be a front page and so on. The posted reason this place exists was "to tell the other side of the story." That is, when twi (and ext-twi) kept seeking to hide and conceal information, it was the purpose here to reveal that information. Has it worked? It worked so well that twi INSISTED on the GSC posting a letter they wrote! When they tried to conceal their behavior when Mrs W was moved from her home off-grounds to retire elsewhere, the news broke here immediately- and no matter what anyone says, ex-twi people checked here for breaking news- as did people CURRENTLY in twi because twi NEVER leveled with them- and got accusatory at questions. So, they logged in here and read what twi wanted kept concealed. In order to do damage control, twi insisted on a response posted here- so all the current twi and ex-twi could read it. When JAL kept trying to advertise whatever ex-twi church he was in that week, he did so here. Oh, he never did it directly, he insisted on doing it in a sneaky way. He had a ces person post his letters to everyone (hi, Jeff!) who tended to get a bit coy about whether or not he was told to post it here. (Jeff also went around all sorts of Christian messageboards, posting links to ces/stfi, and saying, in effect, "Gee, I just found these links to a Christian website, and I don't know what to make of them. What do you guys think?" In one case, he crossed paths with me, and I immediately posted a reply to his thread that made it obvious it was both an advertisement and dishonest.) Later he had people post letters here and pretended he had no plans for them to be posted here, and hinted at both here and his letters ending up here somehow. It's really hard for me to respect anyone who makes it standard policy to be so completely dishonest while claiming to understand the Bible and teach it to people. vpw succeeded largely because we didn't know he was dishonest and a fraud. So, as the clearinghouse for "the other side of the story" for both twi and ex-twi, the GSC, is, at least in theory, neither pro- or con- religious... unless one counts being con-twi. The GSC serves as "equal time" to all the time twi spends HIDING and refusing to level with its people. I'm sorry to say I've done more than my share in flamewars here- even though they were exclusively anti-vpw and anti-twi. When vpw adherents showed up, determined that vpw was some great one and we all forgot he was, I've let them have it. (To a degree, I've done the same with the ex-twi groups.) I hope too many innocent people didn't get caught in the middle, and the messages weren't lost about how dangerous it is to trust twi, vpw, and ex-twi splinter groups in general.

Although I think the other subforum would be a better choice, this isn't an incorrect forum to place the thread, and I wouldn't lose sleep over it if it stayed here. Frankly, I don't think it's worth moving it further than here at this point.