WordWolf

You didn't say so, so I had to mention the most obvious step. Sounds like it. Start-All Programs-Accessories-System Tools-System Restore. It's self-explanatory from there. ("Restore my computer to an earlier time." Then select the date to Restore from, from the displayed calendar. Then let the pc Restart with the older settings. (You'll want the most recent date where the program was still working fine.) I'd consider RumRunner's suggestion, then. :)

Have you tried restarting the pc? If that doesn't do it, I'd consider using a System Restore (if you have one for the past few days.) Worse comes to worst, you can use the GIMP and forget about another Microsoft program.

I think this summed it up. I was going to say "You were in a cult, but the cult was not in you."

"'Character' is what you are when no one is looking."

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...=0&p=140229 " In 1981, Wierwille obtained an invitation to one of the events of Ronald Reagan's inauguration, and word filtered down through the ministry that Wierwille had access to the president himself. Word had it that Reagan was a "believer", and since the word was used exclusively of Way members, some took this to mean that Reagan was catually a follower of The Way. As evidence, the proponents of this theory would say "Have you ever seen Ronald Reagan going to church?" In a Jan. 1981 newsletter to Ohio believers, state leader Bob Mirabito wrote: "Dr. Wierwille has personally been invited by President-Elect Ronald Reagan to the Inauguration Ball this January 20th. It is not one of the sattelite balls. There will be only 1,000 people in attendance". A spokesman for Reagan's Inaugural Committee, speaking to the Empria Gazette, scoffed at rports that Reagan had personally invited Wierwille to anything. "He would not have been invited by President Reagan and ended up in the same computer lists as the 175,000 others" said committee spokesman Bob Billings. Billings said that there was no ball with only 1,000 people, and that with roughly 43,000 people attending about nine balls, the average attendance was closer to 5,000. Noting that invitations were handed out on request, Billings also said his office had extended an ivitation to a man who identified himself as "King of the Gypsies", and claimed to represent a union of practicing Gypsies. On Feb. 9, 1981, Kansas Senator Bob Dole, future Republican presidential nominee, wrote in answer to an inquiry from Herb Diamond: "I realize that there has been a great deal of concern about the participation of Victor Paul Wierwille, leader of THe WAy, in the recent Inaugural activities. I want to assure you that Mr. Wierwille's presence was as a private citizen and not an official guest. It seems that the invitation to Mr. Wierwille came as a result of a routine phone request to a congressional office that a V.P. Wierwille attend an Inaugural event. Whoever took the phone message did not recognize the name, and so it was passed on along with other such requests..His presence in Washington in no way represents any kind of official recognition of him or his organization by the Administration. quoted from The Cult That Snapped by Karl Kahler, p 124-125"

==================== Ok, different song, different artist. "You give me just a taste so I want more and more. Now my hands are bleeding and my knees are raw. Now you've got me crawling, crawling on the floor."

Man, this band can't get any love on this thread lately. This is Queen's "Princes of the Universe." (It was a single, had a video, and was the theme song of the Highlander movies and television.) The official video features Christopher Lambert from the movie. (He's there with the band- he and Freddie Mercury cross swords.)

Hm. I think I just added another important piece to my understanding of the post-Apocalypse timeframe.

I'll go a step further, and ask a question. Which is MORE evil- to serve your belly and worship yourself, and tell everyone "I worship myself! Worship alongside me!" or to serve your belly and worship yourself, and tell everyone "I worship YHWH and serve the Lord Jesus Christ! I will teach you to worship YHWH and serve Jesus Christ!" Evil is not a matter of twirled mustachioes, top hats and black opera capes, tying women to railroad tracks. One may smile, and smile, and be a villain.

"Here we are, born to be kings" "Here we belong, fighting to survive In a world with the darkest powers." "Here we belong, fighting for survival- We've got to be the rulers of your world." "I am immortal. I have inside me blood of kings. I have no rival. No man can be my equal. Take me to the future of new earth!" "Fighting and free, got your world in my hand. I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand." "No man could understand-my power is in my own hand!" "People say you've had your day. I'm a man that will go far Fly the moon and reach for the stars. With my sword and head held high Got to pass the test first time, yeah. I know that people talk about me- I hear it every day, But I can prove them wrong 'cause I'm right first time."

"Here we belong, fighting to survive In a world with the darkest powers." "Fighting and free, got your world in my hand. I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand." "No man could understand-my power is in my own hand." "People say you've had your day. I'm a man that will go far Fly the moon and reach for the stars."

"Fighting and free, got your world in my hand. I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand." "No man could understand-my power is in my own hand." "People say you've had your day. I'm a man that will go far Fly the moon and reach for the stars."

"People say you've had your day. I'm a man that will go far Fly the moon and reach for the stars."

The Beatles, "A Day in the Life."

Got it in one! "Nice dress." "Thank you. I saw it in a window, and I just couldn't resist it." Carol Burnett's famous spoof of "Gone With The Wind"- with a dress made from curtains- including the curtainrods! "He hates but one man: the man who stole his shoes." "That's because there is no air in the windmills of your mind." Their spoof of Kung Fu- "Young Fool." "He swallowed a live hand grenade. He has no internal organs." "What's your favorite ice cream flavor?" "Buffalo Ripple." The Queen of England, and that soldier they were going to name the battleship after.

"Nice dress." "Thank you. I saw it in a window, and I just couldn't resist it." "He hates but one man: the man who stole his shoes." "That's because there is no air in the windmills of your mind." "He swallowed a live hand grenade. He has no internal organs." "What's your favorite ice cream flavor?" "Buffalo Ripple."

When I read the latest set, I'm hearing them in the voices from "King of the Hill."

True. Nice article. It's got a few details wrong, but for an outsider, it was pretty good. I notice someone got to him with the inflated numbers, too. The highest # twi ever claimed was 100,000, which was the number of people who ever signed up for pfal. As we all know, that's not the same as "the number of people who stayed around for at least 3 months after pfal" or even "the number of people who finished pfal", let alone "the number of people who attended Session 1." When I took it, 8 people signed up (thus, all 8 count towards that total), 7 showed up for Session 12, and 3 of us finished the class, although all 3 of us did stay around. The 100,000 number was an inflation. Someone somehow started floating an even bigger #, which this guy heard.

Right. Joe Dawson was a Watcher, and had a bar, "Joe's." Richie Ryan always called Duncan MacLeod "Mac". Amanda had been a thief for centuries. Most of the other quotes referenced their ages, and included a few exchanges from some of the better-known episodes. The one about the good times and women was from "the Gathering", and was between Connor and Duncan (Lambert and Paul, of course, both acting in the series premiere.)

Nice one, John.

"What do you expect? Einstein? Freud? Buddha? Sorry Joe, I'm just a guy." "Sooner or later, everyone comes to Joe's." "You don't understand- I am the End of Time!" "You're history." "Sometimes in life you have to do more than just watch." "You won't let me change, you know that? You really expect me to steal." "I expect sharks to bite too. Don't take it personally." "Just because I don't like to fight, doesn't mean that I can't." "You ever had it bad for an older woman?" "Well, the situation hasn't come up recently." "Did you really kill all those people?" "Yes, is that what you to hear? Killing was all I knew, is that what you want to hear?" "It's enough." "No, it is not enough. I killed, but I didn't just kill fifty, I didn't just kill a hundred. I killed thousands. I killed ten thousands. And I was good at it. And it wasn't for vengeance. It wasn't for greed. It was because I liked it. Cassandra was nothing, her village was nothing. Do you know who I was? Death! Death. Death on horse! When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept them awake at night. Is that was you want to hear? Than the answer... is yes. Oh, yes." "Mac, I'm alive." "As long as I can remember knowing you, you've had all the fun and most of the good women. "Lately." "Lately?" "That's what I said." "What are you talking about?" "Well, I seem to remember that girl in London. The red head. Healthy girl. " "Come on. That was nearly one hundred and sixty years ago. "That's what I said. Lately." ""Just how old are you? Are you a Christian, or do you paint yourself blue and bay at the moon?"

We're discussing "body vs bride" in Doctrinal right now....

I'm fine with explaining twi doctrine, but can we do it in a Doctrinal thread, or a thread in ATW specifically about that, or maybe a GS 101 thread, and let this thread be about esoteric phrases?

It's patently ridiculous to take standards that include legal status, and to try to apply them to situations centuries before, when the legal standards were markedly different. For example, travelers in 2008 must carry valid passports if they travel between countries in order to be expected to be allowed to enter that country. In Jesus' time, and in Paul's time, travelers did not carry valid passports. Was that wrong of them? Did they break the law by being expected to travel? Paul travelled a LOT and never had a passport stamped. No-and most people with any sense can see that there were NO SUCH THING as valid passports back then, so expecting them to carry them of be "wrong" is patently silly. However, it's no less silly than saying "Paul didn't have an independent auditor examine the ledgers annually, so he was a lawbreaker"- just because that's honest business practice NOW although it wasn't in effect THEN. Did they break the laws of the land? NO. Jesus paid his taxes. Paul was in trouble for angering RELIGIOUS AUTHORITIES, not any LEGAL AUTHORITY. Peter gave the standard: I Peter 2:13-14. "13Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well." This was written during a time of CORRUPT leaders like NERO. =========== So, John's standards of legal expectations are RIDICULOUS to use, line by line, for Jesus or Paul. "Files and records held on members?" John would be silly to have brought it up. However, John never intended it to be used on people in other countries 2000 years ago. The silliness was introduced when someone ELSE brought it up, and pretended there was merit in doing so. Let's try to do something intelligent with this silly interruption, however. This is a MODERN standard. The claim was SUPPOSED to be that genuine movements of God would fail this standard. Therefore, an intelligent question would be: Would a MODERN movement from God PASS John's posted standard, or would a MODERN movement from God FAIL John's posted standard? Let's take a look. I take it as a given that any GENUINE movement FROM GOD ALMIGHTY would not contradict the standards God has previously given. That is, any movement FROM GOD ALMIGHTY would, perforce, conform to the letter and intent of Holy Scripture. (I also take it as a given that the Bible is that selfsame "Holy Scripture". Discussions that disagree on this will be unable to get far, as there would then be no STANDARD to compare, so everything would be subjective and opinion, which vary widely.) What's some of the standards God would have in effect? 1) The laws of the land would be followed. 2) The people would be loved like Jesus loved his disciples. (John 13:34-35, John 15:12, 15, Romans 12:10, Galatians 5:13, Ephesians 4:12, I Thessalonians 4:9...) ========================= So, what would John's "TIPS" (gee-he never said they were a "standard"-that was another poster) say about a MODERN movement of God? Would a MODERN movement of God do this? They WOULD have specific standards for policies and procedures that will be applied, and how they will be applied. They would NOT hide "unpleasant" news-scandals or internal problems- from the members or the public. (This does not require them to put articles on them on the national news-but the members would all have free access to the basics, and outsiders could easily report on them if they wished.) Finances would be OPEN and MONITORED. Many modern churches have this already. Expenses people would have to pay would be kept reasonable-with the goal that more people can participate in things when they are cheaper, which benefits more people. God prefers to benefit more people rather than less people (all other things being equal- benefitting 200 loyal Christians is better than benefitting 10 loyal Christians, but benefitting 200 loyal Christians is better than benefitting 300 people who glory in sins and the propagation of sin.) So, the "Be Transparent" Tips would, indeed, apply and God's movements would pass. This is almost a corollary to the previous points. God's people will be fair and evenhanded, having fair rules, accessible to all, which would be the one standard. Corruption and problems would be dealt with swiftly, fairly, and openly, so the laity could see what happened and how it was addressed. In short, again, God's GENUINE movements would adhere to this. ACCOUNTABILITY, FREE WILL, and FREEDOM OF IDEAS matter to God. Nobody would be FORCED to say-or NOT say-specific things. If the people need to hear about how to operate independently, THAT is what they will hear, not "how to conform to the leader's whims." What about ACCOUNTABILITY? Would there really be meetings on practices? The Book of Acts shows meetings something like the contemporary versions. A REAL movement of God has REAL leaders for God in charge- so there is little concern that a POLICY MEETING would end with LESS effective policy. Rather, the strengths of ALL of God's leaders would be brought into play, which strengthens the movement from God. So, again, John's "tips" would indeed apply to a GENUINE movement from God in the MODERN world. Do I really need to address this one again? John's "tips", again, DO apply. This can be summarized as "love your neighbor as yourself", if "neighbor" includes people like "those who have nothing to do with you, who have no reason to presume a benefit or a payback for helping them, who are then helped." (Review Jesus' own example of the "Good Samaritan" if this is unclear to you.) Plenty of modern churches, BTW, DO perform work for total strangers- homeless, hungry, destitute- and expect nothing back in return. (Ever find a total stranger, feed them, and then leave without taking any credit whatsoever for having done so? I have-when working with a local church-and I could easily have chided them for glaring errors in their doctrines. However, they understood "love your neighbor as yourself" better than I ever saw in twi.) REAL movements of God should be free of even needing to ADDRESS such considerations. However, they would take responsibility for harm done by their group, in their name, and act decisively to fix any problems thus inflicted. It's almost ridiculous to have to say that's a simple application of "love one another." That's ALL the "TIPS" John gave. How about that- item by item, GENUINE MODERN MOVEMENTS OF GOD would indeed have little trouble following these "TIPS", and if they were graded with this as the standard, they'd get very high marks-or, likely, perfect marks. The idea that these "TIPS" would APPEAR to discredit GENUINE movements of God is an interesting idea, but-as we have just seen- it's an idea that is easy to disprove. (Edited to delete accidentally duplicated text.)

[i think there's a hidden agenda in Mike's posts-which is to obfuscate the issues and try to invalidate them- whether it be through loaded language like "schemes", or through comparing unlike things and saying a standard fails when it can't be used for things it was never designed for. (Mathematical proofs would "fail" to give a reasonable standard for keeping food fresh, and it would be similarly unfair to apply one to the other.} The idea that "no one can ever claim to have any kind of true authority" is introduced here by Mike- who, conveniently, never defines nor explains what he means by "true authority" so he can later claim his issue were never addressed. We all agree there is TRUTH and AUTHORITY. What "ABSOLUTE" truth is, and "TRUE" authority is, are matters of DOCTRINE and deserve their own threads in Doctrinal. "What is truth?"- Pontius Pilate.] [This claim might carry a lot more weight if it wasn't coming from someone with his OWN "authoritative take" on truth-rare or otherwise. And shoving contradictions under the rug is just one of his most common tactics. (I wouldn't have brought that up-but YOU WERE THE ONE WHO WAS MAKING THE COMPARISON. Between yourself and Juedes, I think you are so far apart in the objectives you choose that I did not think the comparison was well-taken.)] [You're asserting this without making a case for it. Bald claims should be supported if you expect anyone to take them seriously. We had more than our fill of bald, unsupported claims in twi-we don't need any more from you or anyone else.]