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With a little checking, I found this: http://www.leftbehindgames.com/pages/controversy.htm LEFT BEHIND: ETERNAL FORCES A statement from Left Behind Games Inc. Troy A. Lyndon, Chief Executive Officer Recently, much controversy has ensued due to published articles in the media which discuss the violence in our upcoming game, Left Behind: Eternal Forces. However, references to “praise the lord and pass the ammunition” or “kill in the name of God” or others were made by journalists spreading misinformation, which is absolutely not true. And for this reason, I have published this statement. There is no blood or gore in Left Behind: Eternal Forces. The game is designed to be a classic battle between good and evil, but it does not gratuitously depict violence or death. Others are concerned about the pre-trib religious doctrine believed by the Left Behind authors. Left Behind is not the Bible, it is a fictional story and accordingly, situations resulting from the stories' post-apocalyptic time-frame are used to encourage gamers to think about matters of eternal significance, a topic largely ignored by modern games. Because our game is a ‘strategy' game, never does a player click a key or press a button to actuate a first-person violent act. Instead, control is managed by the player in much the same way as an animated chess game would be when pieces fight for position, except that in ‘real-time' strategy games, many pieces fight for position at the same time. In Left Behind: Eternal Forces, the players' objective is to find ‘tribulation clues', which include Bible mysteries, codes and fascinating and eternally relevant information. In the initial missions, there is little emphasis on physical warfare and gamers are introduced to powers of influence which result in a battle for the hearts and minds of people. As missions progress, there are no ‘objectives' to cause war physically. However, physical warfare results when the player is required to defend against the physical forces of evil; led by the Global Community Peacekeepers. Several months ago, there was a news story with erroneous information about the game. Unfortunately, some readers accepted the misinformation as being factual, and then the rumor mill and the blogs were off and running. If you hear someone making negative statements about this game, we encourage you to ask if they have personally reviewed the game. If they are merely passing on hearsay, it is false and misleading information. ============== "Strategy" games are not standard playing games. The player maneuvers characters as if on a chessboard. Anyone who played Final Fantasy 7 may remember Fort Condor or the Condor Fort Gold Saucer game (same game). This works the same way, and often the word "TACTICS" is added to a game title to indicate it's about maneuvering forces that then act INDEPENDENTLY. (Final Fantasy 7 players who moved on to Final Fantasy Tactics were often VERY surprised, since that game played NOTHING like a Final Fantasy series game.) I, personally, remember a review in a newspaper on the SuperNintento game "Bible Adventures" and how violent it was. I was offended- by the REVIEW. I'd already PLAYED the game. I was unable to find the violent scenes. There was Miriam chasing Baby Moses, there was David the shepherd gathering his flock, and the more interesting Noah's Ark segment, where you gathered the animals 2 by 2. Supposedly, there was some violence late in the David segment. However, the reviews made it sound as if the characters onscreen ran around slashing infidels. I'm seeing a similar situation with these "reviews." At least concerning violence. Now, objecting in general on religious grounds is a separate discussion, and I expect each person to know their own conscience.

That suggests this is *looks up the title* "11001001." The string of numbers is too long to be worth memorizing, unless you're diehard. The episode with the Bynars.

And you believed him when he said a blizzard pinned him into the city in Tulsa. And that he saw a snowstorm and heard from God that he'd be the recipient of special revelation hidden for nearly 2000 years. And that twi's programs were always about serving the individuals. And when he said he never threw anybody out. And when he said he always fought to keep people in. Etc, etc. However, quite a few of those were shown to be lies.

And as a Christian leader, he would be a success if he teaches his children plenty of good Sunday School and Bible every Sunday without fail. His beating-them-to-a-bloody-pulp Mon-Fri at times, of course, are simply expressions of his "flesh". Since, years later, his children are able to recite whole passages of Scripture and their meanings, in English AND Greek, he obviously was a success as a Christian leader with them, because they DID learn some Good Bible. The flashbacks and facial twitches they still have, well, bringing them up only speaks to the negatives in his life. Are we supposed to speak of his negatives? After all, he taught them some Good Bible! After all, none of us are perfect. And his imperfections causing lifelong damage to some people, well, what does that matter? After all, he taught them some Good Bible!

.....so it's Raf's turn.

To Raf: That's correct. I STILL think of that episode as "Res-Q", and probably will until I die. Your turn. To George: PBPHBTHTBPBHT!!!!

I know very little, but it's probably more than the average GSC'er knows about it. First of all, there's no "it"- North America had hundreds of nations, and lost possibly 95% of its "native" population as a result of wars with, broken treaties from, and diseases carried by "colonizing Europeans." That can make people a bit resentful. Want an example? Look up "the Trail of Tears", aka "the Trail Where We Cried" for a well-documented incident in the history of the United States. And that's really only one story, mostly of ONE nation-the Cherokee. He sounds angry-and I suspect he's picked up some of that. If you want to empathize with him, understand some of that anger. Don't give him any fake pathos bs where you pretend to understand and want him to suck it up-that won't get his respect at all. Another thing you'll want to understand... You'll need to try to see things from a position of a deep respect for the land, for nature, for all living things. Not every nation was as enlightened as every other on that subject, but what's taught around nowadays on the subject- especially the insta-converts like he might be- is that this is THE cornerstone of "Native American spirituality." ALL things in nature are to be respected- for all things in nature are SACRED. When you kill the deer for food, you thank the deer's spirit for giving you meat, and you don't waste any of it. When that's an attitude you can RESPECT and not simply bite your cheek over, then you may be ready to communicate with him, and listen. Before he is ready to hear you speak, you will need to hear HIM speak, and listen to him. Of course, that's just my advice. You're free to dismiss it all you want.

Silence of the Lambs Anthony Hopkins "Bram Stoker's" Dracula

"My only regret is having to die and finding you here."

"First you take a piece of meat, then you put it in some heat, then you shove it in a bun-" "'Shove it in a bun?' We do not 'shove it in a bun!' We place it carefully!" "Now there, little Dee-Dee, eat the nice jackass meat!" "It is NOT jackass meat! Those are 100% BEEF PATTIES that we shove into those, I mean..." This was from the "Bridgeburger" episode. Rerun wanted to be in their commercial, and wrote a jingle which scandalized the executive, and they wanted Dee to do the commercial. Even though she kept calling it 'jackass meat.' "Principal Bradley smells badly." This was from the "freedom of the press"/underground newspaper episode. They printed this, and it was quoted a lot back at them. "Who did it? Who stole the bracelet?" They gave Ms Collins a gag gift anonymously-an empty box. But she recognized Raj's handwriting. So they were going to pretend it had a bracelet which was stolen. "Which Doobie you be?" The Doobie Brothers episode. "Hello. I be Roger Thomas-which Doobie you be?" on the phone. "I can't help it if I'm fat! It runs in my family!" Nobody runs in your family-they all waddle!" Rerun-Dee exchange. "Mama?" "What is it, baby?" "I can't breathe...." Raj-Mrs Thomas exchange, which happened a few times in a few variations. "Whichever team has the fancier helmets wins." Dwayne's very successful method of picking winning football teams. "We worship Mother Nature. And Ralph." "Ralph? Who's Ralph?" "Ralph represents all that which is good and pure. Ralph is a head... of lettuce." "YOU WORSHIP A HEAD OF LETTUCE?" My alltime favourite What's Happening quote. Rerun joined the Baba Ram Baba cult. Which was a scam for his money. He shows up in saffron robes. Bald. With a tambourine. Rerun realized it was a scam when he overheard the ringleader. So he and the good group freed the cultists-and their money- by having Mother Nature appear at a meeting and give the money back. "GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME! It's not nice to feel Mother Nature!" -Mrs Thomas. You feel fulfilled knowing that now, right?

Correct!

"First you take a piece of meat, then you put it in some heat, then you shove it in a bun-" "'Shove it in a bun?' We do not 'shove it in a bun!' We place it carefully!" "Now there, little Dee-Dee, eat the nice jackass meat!" "It is NOT jackass meat! Those are 100% BEEF PATTIES that we shove into those, I mean..." "Principal Bradley smells badly." "Who did it? Who stole the bracelet?" "Which Doobie you be?" "I can't help it if I'm fat! It runs in my family!" Nobody runs in your family-they all waddle!" "Mama?" "What is it, baby?" "I can't breathe...." "Whichever team has the fancier helmets wins." "We worship Mother Nature. And Ralph." "Ralph? Who's Ralph?" "Ralph represents all that which is good and pure. Ralph is a head... of lettuce." "YOU WORSHIP A HEAD OF LETTUCE?"

Ok, let's see here..... "First you take a piece of meat, then you put it in some heat, then you shove it in a bun-" "'Shove it in a bun?' We do not 'shove it in a bun!' We place it carefully!" "Now there, little Dee-Dee, eat the nice jackass meat!" "It is NOT jackass meat! Those are 100% BEEF PATTIES that we shove into those, I mean..." "Principal Bradley smells badly."

Was this from that "ENTERPRISE" thing where they "explained" how the Klingons had the ridges and then didn't have them, then had them again?

But that's the point- twi drew near to God with their words ("The Word of God is our only rule of faith and practice") but their actions were often VERY far from Him. (vpw trolling "Birth to the Corps" papers looking for the next chick to drug and rape.) One of the main points is that this happened; another is the glib hypocrisy this exposes- "Do as I say, not as I do- and if what I say doesn't match God's Word, do what I say anyway." It WAS "only if you do it our way", which WAS "crapola". Dissent-even if based on Scripture-has never been popular at twi- especially when it was vpw or lcm being addressed (and let's not even mention rfr.) vpw put forth he was some sort of godly maverick who stood up categorically against the religious figures of his day, but stand up to vpw and you're on a bus home. Oh, and don't bother contacting anyone-they've all been told you're possessed. So, they taught-at times- that the Bible should be the only rule for faith and practice. At other times, they were CRYSTAL CLEAR that you'd best do what you're told, or there will be Trouble. With a capital T and that rhymes with V and that stands for Victor Paul Wierwille, founder of twi and founder of trouble in twi.

Translation:This is a virus that attacks MySpace user profiles, using an exploit of the QuickTime player. Translation: The links in the user's MySpace profile then get changed to links for phishing sites. So, people clicking on the links will be scammed. Translation: The MySpace profile will also be used to host a copy of the infecting video, so others can be infected as well. ========== What to do? I don't think this affects computers THEMSELVES-just the MySpace network. Until MySpace fixes it, though, the smartest thing will be to stay off MySpace, or, failing that, to avoid clicking ANY links on MySpace no matter what. In general, I'd keep my antivirus up-to-date as well, just in case something (probably not this) can try to infect your computer.

Undercover Blues Dennis Quaid the Big Easy

This is from the series pilot of WKRP IN CINCINNATI. Johnny Fever (Johnny Caravello, aka Johnny Midnight, aka....) had been fired from his previous job because he had said "Booger" on the air, and someone complained. The asst manager gave him a list of music-and rock albums-to play, and told him he had a lot more freedom here- he could even say "Booger" if he wanted. *leaves* Johnny sets up a rock album on the second turntable, then reaches for the first turntable, playing some easy listening stuff. "So long, elevator music.... No.....YEAH!" *rips album off turntable, destroying it* *starts playing rock music* *turns on mike* "OW! This is Dr Johnny Fever!..." etc. *turns off mike* *turns on mike* "Oh, by the way....I just wanted to say.... BOOGER!!!!!" I've actually seen that last line quoted since then.

There's only 2 Kahless. "Kahless the Unforgettable" was the warrior and General who founded Klingon society as it is now known. He is said to have been a Klingon of impeccable honour, their greatest warrior, and the inventor of the bat'lelth weapon (the "sword of honour" of the Klingons.) To this day (in the shows), some Klingons wait for him to return, just as legends say King Arthur will return. The second Kahless was a clone from the genetic template of the original Kahless. His knowledge is composed of the collected teachings and legends concerning Kahless. He was installed ceremonial emperor of the Klingon Empire. (Think of how the Queen of England can't just set policy.) The political power of the Klingon Empire rests in the Klingon High Council. "Kahless" is there to INSPIRE, to be a visible EXAMPLE to Klingons. These quotes are most certainly from Deep Space 9, but I'm still unable to name it yet. I like the first quote, though. Funny how Sun Tzu's quoted-Picard quoted him as well in NextGen.

I'm giving you first crack at the answer because I think it's only fitting. I'm familiar with the episode, but the reason I made a note of it TO remember the relevant scenes is your own comments on it. So hurry up and broadcast the answer for everyone, unless you want me to take it.....

Actually, Pat, I must make a correction. As you might have noticed, "it" ("the Word of God is our only rule of faith and practice") is not an opinion universally-held here. However, quite a number of people DO hold it, and I'd say more than 1/2 the regular posters are at least comfortable with the doctrine, whether or not they agree with it entirely or mostly. However, it seems that "it" ("the Word of God is our only rule of faith and practice") keeps getting confused-by some people- with "something else" ("the Word of God was TWI's only rule of faith and practice") and the majority of us say that "something else" was proven to be COMPLETELY FALSE, and that twi CLAIMED this (and claims it NOW) while following whatever practice suits the office-holders, who then invoke a semblance of the verses to justify the rules of faith and practice that they've already determined. Generally, so long as one isn't pushing that agenda (or the "vpw never victimized anyone" agenda), this is NOT a "tough crowd."

One thing I DO reject, however, is the casual attempt to lessen the immoral misuse of office done in twi by claiming that "mind control" and manipulation by leadership is the same thing as a sales clerk in a store trying to sell you clothes. No salesperson can invoke fear of disobeying God Almighty if you don't buy the clothes, nor invoke a "standard" you're supposed to live up to, nor scream at you for not buying, nor have you excommunicated from a community ("mark and avoid") for not buying.

Actually, they were a LOT less selective at the last teachings in the Catholic Church that I sat through. Then again, Mark should really be the one to address this subject-if it's worth discussing. Naturally, that should be its OWN thread, since THIS thread is about selective teachings IN TWI. BTW, I'm glad you're not pretending twi didn't do selective teaching- you skipped trying that. I accept your analogy! A clothing salesperson's JOB is to sell clothing, which is their AGENDA. Many are on COMMISSION, which means their UNSTATED AGENDA is to sell you clothing whether or not you need it- to get money from YOUR POCKETS to THEIR POCKETS. I accept that this is akin to how twi operated. Thanks for your assistance-I didn't have such an apt analogy handy at the moment.

*pokes thread* Any hope for another quote, or a clue or something? Might as well throw in some guesses. National Lampoon's "Vacation." "Freaked."

I'm gonna see if Raf chimes in on this one- he's the reason I remember the answer so vividly...